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finally tracked with no VSA... what oversteer?

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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Default finally tracked with no VSA... what oversteer?

3rd track day and i finally had the courage to switch off the vsa for the first time

suprisingly i did not go off into the undergrave, in fact i found myself delibrately getting the car sideways temporarily in slow corners and found plenty of grip

so where is the snap oversteer people always complain of?

maybe its because i dont have stock tires and only about 50% thread left. either way i found it very easy and controllable at the limit
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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^ you just think you were at the limit
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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I have a 2005 with none of the electronic nannies. Very easy car to control. It's the 2001-2002 that were notorious for the snap oversteer, spin-2k That was due to a combination of spring rates and rear bump steer. With each iteration afterwards, Honda made the car more stable. The 2006 is actually probably one of the most stable stock configurations.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Go faster!

Also whats your setup? wheels/tires/swaybar/aero/wing/alignment/blah...
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zzziippyyy,Sep 21 2010, 11:22 AM
^ you just think you were at the limit
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Yeah, MY06 cars aren't exactly known for their oversteer tendancies.
VSA is very good to leave on for daily driving in case you hit a puddle/patch of gravel/oil slick/black ice/moment of stupidity/whatever.
For track it's not required, if you have enough car control skill.
For autocross, it's highly discouraged.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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oversteer happens when:

1. you suck at driving

or

2. when you push the car.

I've oversteered with my 05 at the track before. but i think it was due to reason 1.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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even my 02 tends to understeer at the limit, the oversteer issues happen when the chassis gets upset which can happen in a number of ways.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Since your car has a different geometry in the rear as us early AP1s have, you very well could be right.

Or you weren't fast enough. Try going faster and see what happens in a controlled environment.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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you've got an 06 bro....
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