according the CVC bail schedule Violations of CVC 27156 results in a fine of $350 if it's considered willfull then NO part of the fine can be considered suspendable...i.e. no correction possible.

Bail Schedule

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/referenc...s/05JCBail.pdf

CVC codes

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27156.htm

 

in cali, the fine is 2500 - 5000 for no cat from what i heard. im too lazy to look it up. its VERY strict in cali.

All you ppl so say 'its hard to get caught with a test pipe'

-just wait a few years, maybe months, when ALL the little tuner guys have test pipes and the cops catch on. Soon they will be sniffing your cars every time they pull you over. Trust me. This same phenomenon happened with intakes , exhausts, and nitrous oxide in the 80's and 90's. it will happen to test pipes too.

 

ah read:

(e) Civil penalties may be assessed or recovered for one or more violations by a dealer involving the tampering with or disabling of a vehicle's air injection, exhaust gas recirculation, crankcase ventilation, fuel injection or carburetion systems, ignition timing or evaporative controls, fuel filler neck restrictor, oxygen sensor or electronic controls, or missing catalytic converter.

I think this means the fines are open to interpretation? The first line seems to imply they can determine any 'civil' damages amount, right?

 

You can do what you want. I don't care either way. However, the $2500 potential fine is no joke: it's federal law that applies in all 50 states.

http://www.epa.gov/region07/programs/artd/...lepollution.htm

 

I can't wait for all the cops we'll have running around from sniffing exhaust fumes all day...

 

or just be like me and get the t1r testpipe with brackets for the cat cover...looks just like stock I tell ya....also it doesn't hurt that I do my own inspection

 

It'll be a good day when some high-profile busts happen and scare everyone into putting your cats back on!

 

This still dumbfounds me. A dying cat 'smells'. A car equipped with a test pipe, at worst, smells like some unburnt fuel. I've been in a lot of test piped equiped cars and have owned two of them, and NONE of them smell unless their tune isn't good and it smells like some unburnt fuel.

If you do have a test pipe and for some reason you think your car smells; here is a thought: TURN OFF your car before the cop approaches it. You are SUPPOSED to do that anyway.

The fine for running a test pipe is NOT the same as having a part that isn't carb legal etc. It is much more serious. The state can choose to alter the federal fine, which means it can increase it based on state/county laws. The catylic converter is the most important emissions reducing agent in 99% of cars.

However, I have never heard of anyone being penalized for having one; and if you are too lazy/stupid to just take it off for inspection you deserve to loose a few g's to the state since they probably pay you unemployment and SS up the a$$ as is. Very few officers are even going to know if your cat is missing if they looked under your car for 3 days trying to figure it out. If your car is dropped, it's almost impossible anyways.

Next, running a test pipe on your little s2000 does nothing to the environment worth mentioning. In fact, if every s2000 ran a test pipe, it wouldn't make any recordable impact. In fact, before unleaded gas people ran leaded gas [10x more pollution] with NO cat for DECADES. Modern cars running unleaded gas with NO CAT are still WAY more environmental friendly than the MOST environmental cars 20 or 30 years ago.

China alone, muchless all the other industrializing countries, emmits more harmful pollutants of all kinds since the early 80's when they overhauled their economic policies to the present than America has in its history.

If you are sincerely worried, join some international organization in Nigeria or something.

 

Do you want to go see 'Hoot' this weekend?

 

[QUOTE=Wisconsin S2k,May 1 2006, 04:06 PM]Sorry, but me running a test pipe or not will not decide the future of the environment.