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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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This S2000 forum carries many different philosophical inputs and viewpoints. I'm certain that I have gained valuable knowledge! Anyway, I like to soup up my ride cuz it's tight dawg. Peeps be doin it and it looks hella sick. Sorry for the terminology. I just like to distinguish mine from others. I want people to look at my car and say, "Damn, that's a fixed up S2000. You don't see many of those around. That is so badass!"
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Project Dream
[B]I want people to look at my car and say, "Damn, that's a fixed up S2000.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 02:57 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AusS2000
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Bieg is gunna love this:
Wanting people to notice your car isn't the most deep reason to mod a car, but who am I to question your motives.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 04:47 AM
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How many would mod an original AC Cobra, Ferrari Daytona, Lamborghini Countach, or '67 Corvette? The analogy of a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house is good. Once any of these have been modified, there goes the originality. It will be interesting how the new Ford GT40 is treated. It's just my opinion and I know it doesn't mean didly to those who want to mod. I guess if you want to buy a beautiful car and you have money to burn, go ahead and enjoy yourself. I want to keep my car for a long time and keep it original. We'll see who gets their money's worth in the end.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by DarioManfretti
How many would mod an original AC Cobra, Ferrari Daytona, Lamborghini Countach, or '67 Corvette? The analogy of a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house is good. Once any of these have been modified, there goes the originality. It will be interesting how the new Ford GT40 is treated. It's just my opinion and I know it doesn't mean didly to those who want to mod. I guess if you want to buy a beautiful car and you have money to burn, go ahead and enjoy yourself. I want to keep my car for a long time and keep it original. We'll see who gets their money's worth in the end.
The 67 Corvette is a good one also. Many will argue that the S2000 is not like a Ferrari or an AC Cobra and that is true,... it is not. When the S2000 wins it's class at LeManns then it will be but not yet. But I will argue that it is like a 67 vette which I consider the high water mark of Chevy design. A showroom stock all original numbers matched excellent condition 67 427 Vette is worth around 100 grand today. Subtract money for every deviation from stock because someone buying one today will have to figure in the restoration cost to get it back to stock.

Of course the other side of the argument is that people who own them today are not interested in what the car will be worth 30+ years from now. They wish to enjoy it by tinkering with it now. Who am I to argue that point? My only agenda with stating the above is to alert some newbies to the car world that there are ramifications to every thing they do to the car that is reflected in the cars value. In the case of modifications you take a triple hit in losing money. The cost of the mods, the loss of value in deviating from stock condition and in many cases the loss of the waranty. Unless you bought the car to race at the track this never made any sense to me.

To each their own.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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AMEN!!! BIEG
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by DarioManfretti
How many would mod an original AC Cobra, Ferrari Daytona, Lamborghini Countach, or '67 Corvette? The analogy of a Frank Lloyd Wright designed house is good.
- The S2000 is a great car, but it's no AC Cobra or Ferrari Daytona, and it's sure as hell no Falling Water. There is only ONE Falling Water; Honda makes 50 S2000s EVERY SINGLE DAY.
- Concessions WERE made in this car's design. Honda wanted to allow the S2000 to operate in a variety of conditions (e.g. JDM compression vs. rest of world), to appeal to many different people (e.g. power top, A/C, cruise), and to meet certain regulations (catalytic converter, orange corner reflectors, etc.).
- There are numerous, well-documented ways in which the car's performance can be enhanced with even low-cost mods (e.g. Hondata intake gasket, CAIs...heck, even DOT4 brake fluid).

So arguments against modding based on the car's uniqueness, "purity" of design, or optimal performance are all easily countered right off the bat.

But the real argument for modding, as many have said, is that it's the journey, not the destination. This is the first car I've ever modded, and I've learned SO MUCH; not just about this car, but about cars in general. I now feel comfortable doing regular maintenance on both my and my wife's car. For jobs I don't try to undertake, I'm more comfortable asking for precisely what I want from the service shop, and I feel comfortable knowing they can't pull the wool over my eyes.

Hope this helps,
John
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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Oh get a life Bieg et al.

Yes, you have a right to your opinion, but good God, you've been running off at the mouth for months beating the same dead horse. We got your point many, many messages ago. Do you just have too much time on your hands or what?

The S2000 is a great little car, but for Lord's sake - IT'S JUST A CAR!!

Hey - here's an idea for you. Since you feel compelled to state, restate, and tell us once again of your opinion, why not switch subjects? How about jumping on the abortion rights bandwagon? I don't care which side - just pick one and then go bore the ass off the other dweebs on chat boards that are interested in that.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pixsurguy
[B]Oh get a life Bieg et al.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by twohoos
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- The S2000 is a great car, but it's no AC Cobra or Ferrari Daytona, and it's sure as hell no Falling Water.
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