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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Feb 1 2007, 03:59 PM
That would be SO cool except the Magnuson-Moss act doesn't apply to an extended warranty.
Nor would M-M have helped in this situation even if the OEM warranty had been denied.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GTI 20v,Feb 1 2007, 03:55 PM
The law says nothing of the kind. I'd suggest educating *yourself* on exactly what the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act says and does not say before dispensing any more "advice".

And to the OP, going in for major warranty service with any kind of aftermarket performance parts on the car is beyond stupid. I mean honestly, what did you expect they would say?
Wow, ill do more homework, i coulda sworn there was another post somewhere that said that was the basis of it, guess i should do more research ebfore relaying what i hear on the boards ><
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyushin,Feb 1 2007, 04:31 PM
Wow, ill do more homework, i coulda sworn there was another post somewhere that said that was the basis of it, guess i should do more research ebfore relaying what i hear on the boards ><
Good plan. There's a lot of misinformation out there, particularly with regard to M-M.

If it ever did go to court, the dealership/manufacturer could make a very convincing argument that his mods *could have* caused any number of internal engine failure scenarios.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GTI 20v,Feb 1 2007, 01:46 PM
If it ever did go to court, the dealership/manufacturer could make a very convincing argument that his mods *could have* caused any number of internal engine failure scenarios.
Agreed.

On top of that, if test pipes are illegal in your area, it would be kinda like going to court asking a Judge to make the guy that stole your pillowcase full of weed to pay you back fair market value.

"I put this illegal stuff on my car, and now it's broke, and now I want the warranty folks to cover it".

Could be a tough sell.

If you are running a testpipe mod, you gotta install the superconductor, supercollider piston set mod...ancient ricer secret.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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yea mikegarrison was right..I'm 18 and this I realized how stupid I was for bringing the car in with the mods asking for warranty. (It was because I was busy with school and had no time to take it out). Now I know why my brothers been telling me to grow out of the ricer stage of my life haha. I'm still learning from experiences everyday, but this one was just a damn expensive one.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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If I do buy a used motor and drop it in..Where is a good reliable place in Atlanta to do this? Anybody? And would anybody buy a built used motor if they were me?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsy622,Feb 1 2007, 04:00 PM
yea mikegarrison was right..I'm 18 and this I realized how stupid I was for bringing the car in with the mods asking for warranty. (It was because I was busy with school and had no time to take it out). Now I know why my brothers been telling me to grow out of the ricer stage of my life haha. I'm still learning from experiences everyday, but this one was just a damn expensive one.
Depending on the problem with the car, pulling the parts out might not have helped anyway. Techs can see the signs of stuff having been removed and reinstalled, etc. If the exhaust was the issue, they could look at the bolts, metal, etc. If there's no warranty claims on the exhaust, then why was it R&R'd, etc. Even under the regular warranty, it's a "limited" warranty, and they don't have to prove things beyond a shadow of a doubt. They just need a preponderance of evidence. Damaged engine, evidence of removed aftermarket parts that would have caused damage = out of luck.

I'm sure some wise guys on here will have stories of fooling dealers by removing parts. I can see the motivation finanically, but I still think it's sortof like stealing. If the contract excludes things caused by aftermarket stuff, then you should know what you're getting into by putting that stuff on there. I know that some ext. warranties will look for any excuse to deny coverage, but they need to be able to show how that aftermarket part caused the damage to the car. Having a cold air intake will not fry a clutch, etc. Driver usually does that, but it's unrelated to the mods.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsy622,Feb 1 2007, 04:00 PM
yea mikegarrison was right..I'm 18 and this I realized how stupid I was for bringing the car in with the mods asking for warranty. (It was because I was busy with school and had no time to take it out). Now I know why my brothers been telling me to grow out of the ricer stage of my life haha. I'm still learning from experiences everyday, but this one was just a damn expensive one.
If you haven't already let them start tearing the engine apart, I suggest that you have a leakdown test done as well as a visual inspection of the cams and valvetrain. You still may not have anything wrong in the combustion chambers.

I find it highly suspicious that this noise depends on how long it has been since the oil change. Have you been topping off the oil level every other fill up or so? This engine does consume oil normally.

There are some things on the engine that are oil-pressure related (like the Timing Chain Tensioner and the VTEC system) that would be a lot cheaper to replace than the whole engine would be.

I don't recall you ever saying there were any performance issues other than this noise. Is that true?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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I talked to a S2000 specialist and he told me it might be oil jet problem or something, which is a problem on 02-03 s2000's. The pistons do not get enough oil due to a malfunction.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsy622,Feb 1 2007, 08:00 PM
I talked to a S2000 specialist and he told me it might be oil jet problem or something, which is a problem on 02-03 s2000's. The pistons do not get enough oil due to a malfunction.
Jsy622,

Again, you need to do your homework. Your S2000 "specialist" got it wrong. The oil jet problem was taken care of mid-year 2002.

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