How did it get the name S2000?
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Originally Posted by toofast4yalll,Aug 3 2007, 02:42 AM
The reason it didn't become the S2200 is because Americans are the only ones that got stuck with the 2.2L that only revs to 8k. In Japan and Europe they still have the original 2.0L 9kRPM engine. Americans love their torque, so Honda came out with the 2.2L to sell more cars to Americans. The Japanese, who tend to be more purist about their cars, kept the 2.0L. I'm going to try really hard not to go into a rant about the subject. To keep it short and sweet, why the hell would you change a motor that won multiple awards just for a few more foot-pounds of torque in the low end. I don't know any 2.0L NA engine in history that was designed with low-end torque in mind. As said multiple times, high-RPM torque is better than low-RPM because you can take advantage of gearing. Well, I guess Americans got what they wanted, an easier to drive car with a softer suspension and more low-end torque but less high-RPM performance That's what the S2000 is all about right?
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To clarify:
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
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Originally Posted by dangators05,Aug 3 2007, 11:02 AM
To clarify:
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
1. I totally made up the numbers.
2. It is a fact that, regardless of hp/torque numbers, AP2 has more of both along a wider range of rpm's.
3. My point is that even 2hp and 1lb/ft over a 4k rpm range will get the car movin faster, sooner.
4. Due to drag, hp and torque applied at lower rpm's is more effective at increasing a vehicles speed.
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Originally Posted by dangators05,Aug 3 2007, 07:02 AM
To clarify:
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
Your argument is that the "improvement" from AP1 - AP2 resulted in a 10hp and 8lb/ft increase from 4-8k rpm which is "A LOT" more useful on track than a 9k redline. Call me Dr. Ignorant but I'm not so sure it'd make a significant AP2 advantage on track.
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it's like subie selling 2.5 liter engine only in US, when they have an excellent 2.0 engine in japan.
This creates a problem where suspension was designed for 2.0, but you put a 2.5 engine in it.
but s2k is stroked, so whatever. who cares, it's all good in the hood. at least they didn't put a 2jz engine swap in it.
so is that mean, instead of Type-R sticker, you put TRD sticker all over your 2jz swapped engine?
This creates a problem where suspension was designed for 2.0, but you put a 2.5 engine in it.
but s2k is stroked, so whatever. who cares, it's all good in the hood. at least they didn't put a 2jz engine swap in it.
so is that mean, instead of Type-R sticker, you put TRD sticker all over your 2jz swapped engine?
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Originally Posted by toofast4yalll,Aug 2 2007, 10:42 PM
The reason it didn't become the S2200 is because Americans are the only ones that got stuck with the 2.2L that only revs to 8k. In Japan and Europe they still have the original 2.0L 9kRPM engine. Americans love their torque, so Honda came out with the 2.2L to sell more cars to Americans. The Japanese, who tend to be more purist about their cars, kept the 2.0L. I'm going to try really hard not to go into a rant about the subject. To keep it short and sweet, why the hell would you change a motor that won multiple awards just for a few more foot-pounds of torque in the low end. I don't know any 2.0L NA engine in history that was designed with low-end torque in mind. As said multiple times, high-RPM torque is better than low-RPM because you can take advantage of gearing. Well, I guess Americans got what they wanted, an easier to drive car with a softer suspension and more low-end torque but less high-RPM performance That's what the S2000 is all about right?
