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Originally Posted by The Twanksta,Apr 9 2008, 06:32 PM
rev matching is mostly for spirited driving, but in the s your always driving spirited! haha!
Spirited driving simply requires a bit more blip to the gas pedal...
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Rev matching is for upshifting and downshifting.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out. That's just common sense.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out. That's just common sense.
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From: Bay Area
Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Apr 9 2008, 03:01 PM
Rev matching is for upshifting and downshifting.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out. That's just common sense.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out. That's just common sense.
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Originally Posted by hellspare,Apr 9 2008, 08:05 PM
What does rev matching when shifting up do?
Say you are at 5k then upshift to the next higher gear. At the present wheel speed, the next higher gear will not be turning the transmission at 5k, it will be turning slower.
If you lift off the clutch pedal at 5k engine speed, you will be using the clutch to synchronize the higher engine speed and lower tranny speed. This happens by friction, which imparts wear on the contact points.
At the same time, if you were to simply take your foot of the gas before releasing the clutch pedal (letting the engine speed drop to idle), the clutch action will synchronize in the other direction...same process friction and wear.
In any event, some folks think they can engage the clutch with no slippage with talented rev matching...I doubt that...the timing tolerances are too tight (even if a person used dual rpm gauges).
A person can reduce wear, but not eliminate wear.
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From: Twin Cities
[QUOTE=Ruprecht] Rev matching is for upshifting and downshifting.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out.
A true pro will even rev match going into and coming out of reverse...this can take years of experience to master.
The more cycles a person executes on the clutch the longer it will last.
More cycles = more use = more friction = longer life.
The fewer times you use something, the quicker it will wear out.
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dude... im gonna start this by saying... this was a huge habit of mine in my prelude, i dont do it in the S because the tranny is worth more if i **** up, and the shifting is notchy which makes it hard... so....
So in my prelude, i frequently drove, both up and down shifting... never using my clutch to shift. i would simply rev match and never had a problem doing it, and never grinded gears. i didnt care much because my friend had a lower milage tranny he said i could have at anytime if i wanted. so if your clutch is never pressed in, the plates never seperate, and there is no wear at all. the same thing happens when you rev match, except you press the clutch in anyways just in case your revmatch is off slightly.
i did this for thousands of miles and never had an issue. ill have to admit... i learned to do it on my old 88 ranger back when i was 16.. and i did grind the gears several time... but who cares about an 88 ranger.
So my point was... yes it is possible to do 0 wear rev matchin. its not easy.. because if you off my 200 rpm, or even 50 rpm.... there is still some very very very minimal wear, but there is nothing that makes it impossible to match perfectly.
So in my prelude, i frequently drove, both up and down shifting... never using my clutch to shift. i would simply rev match and never had a problem doing it, and never grinded gears. i didnt care much because my friend had a lower milage tranny he said i could have at anytime if i wanted. so if your clutch is never pressed in, the plates never seperate, and there is no wear at all. the same thing happens when you rev match, except you press the clutch in anyways just in case your revmatch is off slightly.
i did this for thousands of miles and never had an issue. ill have to admit... i learned to do it on my old 88 ranger back when i was 16.. and i did grind the gears several time... but who cares about an 88 ranger.
So my point was... yes it is possible to do 0 wear rev matchin. its not easy.. because if you off my 200 rpm, or even 50 rpm.... there is still some very very very minimal wear, but there is nothing that makes it impossible to match perfectly.