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how many of you downshift when you try to slow down?

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mwy23
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so how does your wife do it?
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Heal and toe downshifts while slowing are not the same as using engine braking (moving to a lower gear and releasing the clutch). The former does not wear your engine (well maybe the blip of the throttle does - gawd), while the latter does. But let's be real here, it's not something that you would even notice at say 30K or 50K miles, more like a leakdown at 100k may show some loss of power (like a few hp not 50). probably more than 90% of drivers of std cars don't even know what h&T is much less do it. Most just pop the car in the lower gear and ease out the clutch and they have no problems.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Yes I do and have never (yet) had a problem in 20 years of driving.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by gomarlins3
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:56 AM
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Well, I have a little over a year's experience under my belt driving manual. I think I've come a long ways in over a year I still remember my first day out driving manual - one of my most embarassing days of my life

I don't downshift when I slowdown - unless it's before entering a turn. I usually just put it in neutral and use the brakes. It might not be the "correct" way, but it's what I'm comfortable with and I'm just a lazy ass to downshift through all the gears, heh. I sat with a few other stick shift drivers this past week and I watched to see what they did. They're all experienced(some more than others, but more experienced than I am), but of the 3, 1 actually downshifted to slow down coming to each light. The other 2 just popped it into neutral and braked. Everyone downshifted before entering a turn though. I think it's just all a matter of preference. The weird thing is, when I asked each of them about rev matching - they all had no idea what I was talking about. They gave me that look of, "what the hell do I need to do that for?" Maybe I'm confused about it myself -Sorry, I know there's a lot of threads about this, but is rev matching to downshift like this...

1) Cruising in 4th gear, turn coming up and want to drop down to 3rd.
2) Push clutch in
3) Put shifter in neutral
4) Let clutch out
5) While car is coasting in neutral, blip the gas to match speeds.
6) Push clutch in
7) Shift into 3rd
8) Let clutch out and shift should be smooth.

Of course, this would be all done really fast, but is this the correct way to rev match???

Thanks,
Brian
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Flyin Wedge
I've always down shifted with every car I've owned without any worn out clutch problems.
Ditto!

(This subject has been beaten to death!)
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by HondaS2K8888
but is rev matching to downshift like this...

1) Cruising in 4th gear, turn coming up and want to drop down to 3rd.
2) Push clutch in
3) Put shifter in neutral
4) Let clutch out
5) While car is coasting in neutral, blip the gas to match speeds.
6) Push clutch in
7) Shift into 3rd
8) Let clutch out and shift should be smooth.

Of course, this would be all done really fast, but is this the correct way to rev match???

Thanks,
Brian
Close but not quite. You just described "double clutch" rev match downshifting. Straight rev matching would eliminate the "neutral" thing.
--- clutch in, gas off, begin shifter movement.
--- by the time your clutch in on the floor, your shifter should be in the next lower gear.
--- then immediately blip the throttle appropriately and release the clutch.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
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Close but not quite.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HondaS2K8888
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So you blip the throttle while the clutch is in/down?? I always thought blipping the gas while the clutch was in was bad for the clutch(yet, another argument to what's bad and what's good for the clutch, lol )? I need to sit with someone and watch them do it!
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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I only downshift to slow down in reverse!
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