Itt we discuss driving technique
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 9 2009, 11:13 AM
LOL, I wouldn't put it quite that way, becaue the S2000 hasn't killed me yet, and I can be quite a bit of a fool, but I did select the car because I felt that even in stock form, it would help me (or force me to) improve my driving skills, and that with a few mods I could take that idea even further. That is one of the many ways in which the little car has managed to EXCEED my expectations.
I also liked the 2nd. generation Corvairs.


I also liked the 2nd. generation Corvairs.


Sound like a kindered soul....
My previous ride was a 73 Porsche 911 RS Replica......... You know, just an overgrown Super Beetle..... Believe me, that car taught respect for trailing throttle oversteer. In fact just thinking of lifting would point the nose sufficiently
I always liked the Corvair Monza...... Had they continued that line maybe the driving talent of our genetic pool would have increased
[QUOTE=PDS,Feb 9 2009, 04:17 PM]ahaaa,
Sound like a kindered soul....
My previous ride was a 73 Porsche 911 RS Replica......... You know, just an overgrown Super Beetle..... Believe me, that car taught respect for trailing throttle oversteer. In fact just thinking of lifting would point the nose sufficiently
Sound like a kindered soul....
My previous ride was a 73 Porsche 911 RS Replica......... You know, just an overgrown Super Beetle..... Believe me, that car taught respect for trailing throttle oversteer. In fact just thinking of lifting would point the nose sufficiently
ahhhh...... how i miss the snap oversteer from my swingaxle aircooled bugs and turns by inertia (before i knew it was a drift). s2000 does remind me of my aircooled beetles tho. i do agree, cars are getting less driver oriented, very bad for enthusiatists.
pinching the corners out? what exactly does that mean?
pinching the corners out? what exactly does that mean?
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 9 2009, 04:47 PM

One of the things I always liked about the old 911's was that when the tail started to slide, you could (almost) always get the grip back by getting the back of the car to squat, and one of the things I like about the S2000 is that the same approach *can* work, but you have to be VERY subtle with the throttle application or you make it worse. Hitting that point where either more or less throttle makes the tale wag is a total hoot. (LOL, as long as you have room for the slide or spin you have when you don't get it quite right.)
I have always enjoyed spinouts (donuts too, but here I'm talking about the ones where it's not really intentinal), and I think I've had more spins in the S2000 than any other car I've ever owned. I think I've probabaly learned things from every car I've ever driven, but the S2000 may well be the best teacher ever.
I'm also pretty big on the Evolution schools and any other kind of instruction that can lead to improvement. Ever been to an Evo school?

Rochester, NY, where I live is located on the shore of Lake Ontario.... From December thru March we get an overabundance of this really slippery white crap that falls from the sky. Now you have to appreciate that all of the nice cars are tucked away for the winter, there's no racing on the tube, and we'll see the sun peak out about once a week.
Sooooooooo, for my entertainment I've been (make sure the wife isn't looking) flogging the wife's 2008 Subaru Impreza all wheel drive.
On snow & ice covered roads it is a complete hoot. Amazingly, when you turn the traction control off, the car actually goes to a rear drive bias. Let me tell you, drifters have nothing on this beauty. Loooooooooong, lazy, four wheel drifts.......For a few moments I start to believe that I'm actually Sebastien Loeb
Then I realize that minor detail that he's averaging about 90mph and I'm doing about 35.Ah, what we'll do to amuse ourselves until the S can poke it's head back out of the cave
Originally Posted by gospeedgo1,Feb 9 2009, 08:16 PM
pinching the corners out? what exactly does that mean?
Originally Posted by PDS,Feb 10 2009, 10:34 AM
Never been to an Evo school.........B on a completely unrelated topic;
Rochester, NY, where I live is located on the shore of Lake Ontario.... From December thru March we get an overabundance of this really slippery white crap that falls from the sky. Now you have to appreciate that all of the nice cars are tucked away for the winter, there's no racing on the tube, and we'll see the sun peak out about once a week.
Sooooooooo, for my entertainment I've been (make sure the wife isn't looking) flogging the wife's 2008 Subaru Impreza all wheel drive.
On snow & ice covered roads it is a complete hoot. Amazingly, when you turn the traction control off, the car actually goes to a rear drive bias. Let me tell you, drifters have nothing on this beauty. Loooooooooong, lazy, four wheel drifts.......For a few moments I start to believe that I'm actually Sebastien Loeb
Then I realize that minor detail that he's averaging about 90mph and I'm doing about 35.
Ah, what we'll do to amuse ourselves until the S can poke it's head back out of the cave
Rochester, NY, where I live is located on the shore of Lake Ontario.... From December thru March we get an overabundance of this really slippery white crap that falls from the sky. Now you have to appreciate that all of the nice cars are tucked away for the winter, there's no racing on the tube, and we'll see the sun peak out about once a week.
Sooooooooo, for my entertainment I've been (make sure the wife isn't looking) flogging the wife's 2008 Subaru Impreza all wheel drive.
On snow & ice covered roads it is a complete hoot. Amazingly, when you turn the traction control off, the car actually goes to a rear drive bias. Let me tell you, drifters have nothing on this beauty. Loooooooooong, lazy, four wheel drifts.......For a few moments I start to believe that I'm actually Sebastien Loeb
Then I realize that minor detail that he's averaging about 90mph and I'm doing about 35.Ah, what we'll do to amuse ourselves until the S can poke it's head back out of the cave


The closest I've come to driving a "modern car" in the snow or on ice has been when we've gone up to Omaha to visit my mom in the winter, and it would be fair to say that I'm a bit out of practice. Last trip (last winter) I almost slid into a curb while trying to "drift" our AWD RX-300 the full length of a Microtel parking lot (the sewers had backed up and the lot was a solid sheet of ice). My wife was with me at the time, and still doesn't realize how much further I slid than I'd intended.

I think I prefer rear engine RWD for "fun with ice and snow." VW Beatle, Ghia, Fiat 850's ... anything that has the bulk of the weight over the rear wheels.
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