This track example is a truely desperate attempt. I've seen tighter turns at a NASCAR super speedway. Since the average speed of the race was 80 mph (3 mile track), you may as well be racing on the freeway.

Look at the car video on this page, the whole time all I hear is high speed turn high speed turn. I could take those turns in my SUV.

Thunderhill

As mentioned these times are a tribute, not the corner carving abilities of either car here, but to the ability of the S2000 to keep up with a more powerful car like the SS on a very fast (read:straight) track.

Try churning up these numbers on a track where you can't get out of 2nd gear.

:crickets:

 

I don't see how I left out any part of the story, I provided a link to the article. BTW I am not on a "side" here, therefore I am not trying to help you or "us". I own neither car, I just cannot stand when someone bashes a car for no reason, while holding their own up on a high mount. The same goes for the LS1 owners that try to come up with excuses for the 03 Cobra killing their car. I never tried to skew the facts of the article, I only posted the final result. The SS was faster on that course than the S2K. I can understand why you would think that I am just trolling, but the fact is I am not.

In the intrest of full disclosure, I'm more of a Mopar man myself.

 

Nothing desperate about it. I do not own an F-Body therefore I do not have the need to defend it at all costs. Can you please show me where I stated somthing that was factually incorrect?

 

Your post implied that the S2000 was not the "corner carver" we say it is and you also implied that the camaro outhandled the S2000 on that road course.

When in fact, it didn't outhandle anything. It merely overpowered the roadster on the straight shots, so you really haven't proven anything we don't already know.

 

Is that a Fro-llet?

 

I never said you didn't state facts, but your example is desperate at best.

Look at this:

Thunderhill Times

You can see here that one S2000 driver had lap times well below the 2 minute mark, consistently. Does that mean the S2000 has more power than an SS, of course not, but I won't post these lap results saying so because it sounds desperate since that has never been in debate.

To say that the cornering abilities of the SS are equal to or superior to the S2000 I really don't think is in debate and to post something which suggests otherwise sounds truly desperate.

 

Well from the posts I read on here, it would seem that the SS wouldn't stand a chance at any track that had turns. I provided proof that the SS beat an S2k.

I know fully well on a small tight track the S2k would win hands down, that kind of setting takes away one advantage the SS has, power. However, on a larger track, the S2k's advantage is taken away. So do you think it is fair to say that the S2k is a better track car IF it is a small tight track?

 

I still see no desperation. It seemed as it was being implied on here that the SS was a piece of junk. I simply provided proof that the SS, despite being a relatively huge and heavy car, could hang with the S2k in a track setting. Where is the desperation?

BTW, this 60 secons time thing between posts makes it a little slow when debating.

 

Since there are track configurations ranging from a super speedway to ones which look like a crazy pretzel had a bad day, I think the general statement that either car is a better track car would be similar to saying a Mac truck and a Dodge viper are both great "hauling" vehicles.

Sure, one is great at hauling ass and the other is great at hauling loads.

I think we both see the same point of view, and all this posting is aimed more at stirring the pot than trying to actually persuade anyone with half a brain that the S2000 has an advantage over the SS at a high gear track, or the SS has an advantage over the S2000 at a low gear track.

I never said, or believe the SS is a POS car, I wish I had one in addition to my S since they are so different, but both have their niches and I'll argue anyone who says otherwise.

I guess stirring the pot is fun, but not at 1 in the morning

 

I agree. I've always found it funny that some people's brand loyality blinds them the the advantages of one car and the disadvantages of another. While the S2K is not my cup of tea, I cannot fault it for it's cornering prowess. And I never meant to imply that YOU said the Camaro was a POS.