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They should just bring back the old tooling from the AP1 and AP2, into the factory; use the same rolling shell engineering/design; upgrade the dif, trans, suspension, brakes, etc; build off the original body panels while aiming to be a tad lighter, and design another engine worthy of Honda's formula 1 heritage!! Make a v8 out of the CBR1000RR engine and make it specific to the new s2000. (Hartley Enterprises did it with the busa engine)

And please keep it strictly manual trans, cable throttle, no assist anything BS.. ehh. just a raw sports car

Screw that follow-the-crowd mess rendering that looks to much like everything else going on with Honda/Acura.

The NA1, NA2, AP1, and AP2 stick out in Honda's lineup. They should have kept it that way.

 

Frankly, I want any new s2000 to be totally different. I want my car to stay special and unique in a sea of lemmings.

Civic type R, BFD. Playing catch-up with Focus, Golf, etc. The expense of the toy model is distributed across the whole civic line-up, ridiculous type R was never brought here before.

To make a vehicle on a dedicated chassis with limited sales volume at an affordable price point (<$50k) is going to be damn near impossible. Consider the number of Miata sales, even Mazda had to share the development cost of the new Miata with Fiat. To make the sales volume necessary for a standalone platform, there will have to be the soft models with tin tops and auto trans for the secretaries and retired grannies to drive. Therefore, it is no longer a special car and see my first point.

 

How much cash are you going to put down on this?

 

Well, if it is a cash bet that something like this will happen? I'd be better off trying for the lottery..

If the tooling is sitting in a warehouse: why not? Would it cost a ton to utilize what was already designed/available?
Cost to utilize programs set for shell production? ex. welding (if, available still)
Share what parts that were great from the AP1 and AP2 and see what could be enforced (we've got 10 years of S2000 parts R&D history to work off of, as well as consumer input)

I can see where the engine would run the most out of putting this all together.

The hell am I saying... I'm afraid the S2000, among 90s J sports cars, will see their fate the same way as 60s-70s era muscle cars saw them in the the past fifteen years: bulky, full of computerized sht, and nowhere near the original.

 

The S2k has a very rare and nice appearance/design imo. Especially the almost-horizontal front-fenders, with a very thin distance b/n the upper wheel-well arch to the top of the fender. The only car I've noticed on the street to have this type of front-fender (besides the usual super-cars from Italy), is the new Aston Martin Vantage. But, even the S2k's fenders appear to be even more flatter/horizontal and more aggressive than even the Vantage, especially given its' proportions of a small car. Whoever designed the S2k's exterior was a bunch of geniuses. Timeless too.

Kinda sad that the upcoming future S2000 will most likely not be as wisely-designed, def won't be "timeless" and will probably try too hard to look too futuristic, modern, ricey and like an after-thought copy of the new NSX (which is already unoriginal, typical looking and looks like an Audi). It'll look like every other modern car out there - nothing special at all and totally unoriginal.

If you're reading this Honda...please prove me wrong and put in a lot of effort to design a timeless, original and good-looking S2k again. Please don't make it look like every other modern car out there nor like an Audi nor like any other car actually.

 

10 more peak HP while adding 500lbs?

Not exciting

 

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Nah. There wasn't any expectations on Crosstour. When there was no expectations, how can one be disappointed?

 

Not super crazy about those renderings, but then, we don't know anything about the concept of the car as a system, so aesthetics are just a piece of the puzzle. The AP1/2 aren't legends because they look cool. It's the total ethos of the car that people love.

Personally, I think Honda should take a page from Jaguar's book in terms of their approach to reviving a lost roadster heritage: The very beautiful and successful F type as successor to the classic E types of the '60s.



Talk about a company that wandered in the design wilderness before finding its bearings. Now they're making probably the meanest and sexiest roadster in production. It's not about copying what worked, but it is about using sound guiding principles to imagine something truly unique and purposeful. I'm not educated enough to know about Honda's current strength to know if they could pull off a similar trick. Sure hope so.

 

Very well said. I agree - it's the concept's ethos and principality, as a whole, that make it a loved car. I just hope the new S2k's ethos/principles will be aimed towards mainly performance and being a great driver's car; rather than mainly being an aesthetically pleasing, daily drivable, luxury sports car.