Sorry, but I don't see it showing up on my computer.

 

Yeah, it's posted 3 times now. If you see them now, you should go back and delete 2 of them. People will think you studder.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
[B]
...you should go back and delete 2 of them.

 

But I can't!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
[B]1st, let me say that I am not offended by your post.

 

I can understand someone being surprised and perhaps upset upon learning that the rear tires on the S2000 may need to be replaced every 10,000 miles. I know that many owners spend a lot on clutches. But relatively high oil consumption comes with this level of performance from a small engine. There is no more a defect here than there is with any of Honda's high performance motorcycle engines.

The complaint apparently associates oil consumption with a design problem. Let me try. If a car does not "burn oil," then the byproducts of combusion (primarily water) are just replacing the oil that is lost in the lubrication of the engine. This is why not changing your oil will eventually result in having "Jello" in your crankcase. If some oil were not lost in this way every time a piston goes up or down, your engine would not last very long.

I can understand complaining that the engine starts to burn oil at 50,000 miles. For a car driven on the street, that would not be acceptable. But that does not appear to be the issue. Rather, it is an unwillingness to change a habit. Perhaps a 350-Z would be more acceptable.

 

I don't know what Honda considers "normal" in this instance beyond what I've read in this forum but here's what I got told at one of those "other" dealers back in the late 80's.

I bought a 1988 Chrysler LeBaron convertible ( I know, I know, don't shoot me. It was a big mistake and I'll never make it again. I've learned my lesson! ) Anyway, the dealer was a Ford / Chrysler dealer and at the time they were inviting new car customers to a weekly "get to know the staff" party. They put on a nice little feed and everyone was introduced to the service and parts personnel. The whole thing went pretty well until the service manager dropped the little bomb shell that you could tell he was really dreading.

It was obvious because of the way he was walking backwards as he made this statement. "Ford and Chrysler both consider any oil consumption less than one quart in 800 miles as normal!" You read that right folks. Anything over 800 miles to a quart of oil is normal and the factory will do "nothing" about it. I think that's the fastest I've seen a room full of happy people get hostile in my life. As I said, he was back peddleing hard at that time and stated, "Don't take it out on me, I think it stinks too, there's just nothing we can do about it." I actually felt sorry for the guy. He's getting his ass chewed over a decision that he had absolutely nothing to do with and that would probably continue.

Fortunately, my LeBaron (2.5L 4-cyl) never used more than a 1/4 quart in a 3k mile oil change cycle in the 70k+ miles I drove it so this was never an issue for me. My point is that Honda isn't the only one who doesn't take much notice of a quart or two of oil disappearing into thin air. Considering the high performance nature of the S2000, it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

JMO, FWIW,
Drive Safe,
Steve R.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crabby Guy
[B]I can understand someone being surprised and perhaps upset upon learning that the rear tires on the S2000 may need to be replaced every 10,000 miles.

 

My thought is, this is a very technolgically advanced machine, it has more than fifty years of race history packed into its design. You would think that oil consumption was a thing of the past specially when this car is made for the general public.
Where my bitch comes from is I bought this car because it is a Honda and I was under the impresssion or I ass-u-mmed that since it is a Honda, I would get 300,000 trouble free miles out of her. Like I stated before, there was a time a little while back when it seemed like everyone was blowing their motors and Honda would do nothing but poinit the finger. It not only scared the bejuesus out of me but it made me really dissapointed with Honda because of reasons stated above.
To all that responded or read my post thank you and I hope the problem does not happen to you and I hope we can all have many, many miles driving with the top down worry free! Hell thats why I bought the car.

 

so your engine doesnt' burn oil.

your differential hasn't been shredded from doing repeated hi-rpm clutch drops.

your engine hasn't blown from a 5th to 2nd downshift overrev.

you don't mention the tire wear issue, so i assume that's not a problem for you.

does your top leak? did you have any clutch problems? is your exhaust rattling? how about poor radio performance? anything??????

do you have any actual problems with YOUR s2000?


this is just my theory....
it sounds like you just paid too much and are suffering from delayed buyer's remorse. your initial post mentions that you spent almost $40K on the s2000... that's a ton over sticker. couple that with its declining resale value, and you have the recipe for an upside down loan sitaution.

this can't really be about mechanical problems, right?