One Helluva Night!...(not a repost).
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jnmunsey you're anyone can come on here and post argumentative shite till they're blue in the face, try and look at the circumstances of the incident before you vomit your opinion next time hey
The guys knew that they were at fault yet they tried to weasel out of taking responsibility for their own actions. Yeah it was unintentional, that's why they're called accidents. That doesn't shift the responsibility one iota nor does the fact that you dont feel that its worthy of making an issue. For all you know MRI might have accepted the guys apology and put it down to
but he wasn't given the chance to because these jascka$$es thought they wer above that.
Analogy, I punch my brother all the time and its no big deal we have a laugh about it, does that mean if some stranger gives him a love tap that he should just grin and bear it? I think not pal.
People need to learn to be responsible for their own actions period.
The guys knew that they were at fault yet they tried to weasel out of taking responsibility for their own actions. Yeah it was unintentional, that's why they're called accidents. That doesn't shift the responsibility one iota nor does the fact that you dont feel that its worthy of making an issue. For all you know MRI might have accepted the guys apology and put it down to
but he wasn't given the chance to because these jascka$$es thought they wer above that.Analogy, I punch my brother all the time and its no big deal we have a laugh about it, does that mean if some stranger gives him a love tap that he should just grin and bear it? I think not pal.
People need to learn to be responsible for their own actions period.
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well everyone mised my point. I never suggested MRI_blue had it coming or was overreacting. Clearly the punks who jacked with his car were at fault, but they damaged property and from the sound of his story it was not intentional. I am not exactly sure of the laws in Texas regarding property damage, but I believe under a certain amount the law does not get involved, and if it is private property it may not matter at all - it is only criminal if a crime was committed. I certainly don't want every nitpicking "weenie" summoning the cops because of accidental property damage in their kitchen..
Still, if someone knowingly damages your property and it is serious then do what you have to and are supposed to do - get the info, find witnesses and go after them, but coppers don't need to be called for a petty door ding...period.
As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom..
"It astonishes me to find... [that so many] of our countrymen... should be contented to live under a system which leaves to their governors the power of taking from them the trial by jury in civil cases, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of commerce, the habeas corpus laws, and of yoking them with a standing army. This is a degeneracy in the principles of liberty... which I [would not have expected for at least] four centuries."
--Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1788. (*) FE 5:3
"..where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." - Mohandas K. Gandhi
"An armed society is a polite society" - Robert Heinlein
"They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Hmm read some more here: http://www.iraqwarveterans.org/quotes.htm
Still, if someone knowingly damages your property and it is serious then do what you have to and are supposed to do - get the info, find witnesses and go after them, but coppers don't need to be called for a petty door ding...period.
As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom..
"It astonishes me to find... [that so many] of our countrymen... should be contented to live under a system which leaves to their governors the power of taking from them the trial by jury in civil cases, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of commerce, the habeas corpus laws, and of yoking them with a standing army. This is a degeneracy in the principles of liberty... which I [would not have expected for at least] four centuries."
--Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1788. (*) FE 5:3
"..where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." - Mohandas K. Gandhi
"An armed society is a polite society" - Robert Heinlein
"They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Hmm read some more here: http://www.iraqwarveterans.org/quotes.htm
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" but coppers don't need to be called for a petty door ding...period.
As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom.."
Being a enforcer of not just military laws, but laws set forth by the United Nations, I have first-hand experiance in enforcing laws in a lawless enviornment(s). And until someone has " walked a mile" in my boots, please don't preach to me about Security over Freedom. You can't have a safe womb unless it is protected. From that protection spawns birth. From that birth can spawn all sorts of positives and negatives...but you cannot and will not get the latter with out some way to protect those people and ideals inside that womb...that is why Democracy works. You and I both have the Freedom to say what is on our minds ( like this thread), and try to fix the once deemed un-fixable.
We all would like to live in a Utopian Society, but until the infrastructure is laid that can support such a monumental socialogical change, we are going to have to deal within the Real World. Not all people care. Not all people Trust. It is those that help police these positive and trust worthy ideals that will lead this world into a better time(s).
So Yes, I do value my Security. Hell, I help enforce it on a day to day basis. Not too many people can say that they have contributed to the world around them. I can. It is the people out there that sit behind their own or other's ideals that end up still sitting back, watchng from the wings while all the while voicing an opion that they do not have enough personal strength to act upon.
We call those people morons.
If this sounds too harsh, please understand the world that we live in today. You will see where I draw my educated and factual beliefs. I am a human, not a robot soldier. I think on my own, and I act with the full authority of General Military Authority.
You can quote all you want to, but make your own statements on life by doing something about it. If you don't like something, lobby to get it changed. If you can not, then sit back and watch the world rotate around you.
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As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom.."
Being a enforcer of not just military laws, but laws set forth by the United Nations, I have first-hand experiance in enforcing laws in a lawless enviornment(s). And until someone has " walked a mile" in my boots, please don't preach to me about Security over Freedom. You can't have a safe womb unless it is protected. From that protection spawns birth. From that birth can spawn all sorts of positives and negatives...but you cannot and will not get the latter with out some way to protect those people and ideals inside that womb...that is why Democracy works. You and I both have the Freedom to say what is on our minds ( like this thread), and try to fix the once deemed un-fixable.
We all would like to live in a Utopian Society, but until the infrastructure is laid that can support such a monumental socialogical change, we are going to have to deal within the Real World. Not all people care. Not all people Trust. It is those that help police these positive and trust worthy ideals that will lead this world into a better time(s).
So Yes, I do value my Security. Hell, I help enforce it on a day to day basis. Not too many people can say that they have contributed to the world around them. I can. It is the people out there that sit behind their own or other's ideals that end up still sitting back, watchng from the wings while all the while voicing an opion that they do not have enough personal strength to act upon.
We call those people morons.
If this sounds too harsh, please understand the world that we live in today. You will see where I draw my educated and factual beliefs. I am a human, not a robot soldier. I think on my own, and I act with the full authority of General Military Authority.
You can quote all you want to, but make your own statements on life by doing something about it. If you don't like something, lobby to get it changed. If you can not, then sit back and watch the world rotate around you.
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By actually bringing up this issue I have done quite a bit, since numerous people will read it and maybe just one will take notice. I may not be adept at conveying my feelings on this matter, but at least I try.
As for doing something about it, I vote, I write my congressmen, and I (attempt to) preach about our constitutional rights which more or less no longer exist in our nation.
The people in this country can protect themselves from riff raff by using common sense and when all else fails using violence. The sound of a pump action shotgun almost always deters home invaders - nobody gets shot and nothing gets stolen or hurt, and that invader will never come back to your home again. One protects their womb not by relying on others but by doing it themselves.
It is our right to bear arms...period. Taking guns away from the populous yet keeping them in the hands of, as Dewey Finn refers, "the man", should be a crime punishable by death. But, "the man" wants nothing more than this, as they will no longer have to fear us once we have been disarmed.
There are numerous examples of how an armed populous is very effective at deterring crime (Switzerland for example), but the media will never tell us about it. A gun wielding nutjob at a University a couple years ago was disarmed by fellow students, but only 1 media outlet(a small newspaper) in the entire U.S. reported how.. two other students ran to their cars, got their guns, and made the perp give up his gun..
Now, when is one of you gonna photoshop me a gunrack for my S2k ???
-John M
PS - many constitutionalists justifiably argue the very existence of the District of Columbia is unconsitutional..
The U.N....? hehe what a joke..
I a done with this. lock the thread if you want but no more from me..
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MRI_Guru
" but coppers don't need to be called for a petty door ding...period.
As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom.."
Being a enforcer of not just military laws, but laws set forth by the United Nations, I have first-hand experiance in enforcing laws in a lawless enviornment(s).
As for doing something about it, I vote, I write my congressmen, and I (attempt to) preach about our constitutional rights which more or less no longer exist in our nation.
The people in this country can protect themselves from riff raff by using common sense and when all else fails using violence. The sound of a pump action shotgun almost always deters home invaders - nobody gets shot and nothing gets stolen or hurt, and that invader will never come back to your home again. One protects their womb not by relying on others but by doing it themselves.
It is our right to bear arms...period. Taking guns away from the populous yet keeping them in the hands of, as Dewey Finn refers, "the man", should be a crime punishable by death. But, "the man" wants nothing more than this, as they will no longer have to fear us once we have been disarmed.
There are numerous examples of how an armed populous is very effective at deterring crime (Switzerland for example), but the media will never tell us about it. A gun wielding nutjob at a University a couple years ago was disarmed by fellow students, but only 1 media outlet(a small newspaper) in the entire U.S. reported how.. two other students ran to their cars, got their guns, and made the perp give up his gun..
Now, when is one of you gonna photoshop me a gunrack for my S2k ???
-John M
PS - many constitutionalists justifiably argue the very existence of the District of Columbia is unconsitutional..
The U.N....? hehe what a joke..
I a done with this. lock the thread if you want but no more from me..
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MRI_Guru
" but coppers don't need to be called for a petty door ding...period.
As for DC, I'm sorry to read some of you value security over freedom.."
Being a enforcer of not just military laws, but laws set forth by the United Nations, I have first-hand experiance in enforcing laws in a lawless enviornment(s).
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John,
Saying this:
" PS - many constitutionalists justifiably argue the very existence of the District of Columbia is unconsitutional..
The U.N....? hehe what a joke..
I a done with this. lock the thread if you want but no more from me.. "
Tells me a few things.
1. You didn't read into all of this thread. (see reason # 4)
2. You are right, D.C. is the prime example of " Taxation without representation." Hell, it is on the license plates!
3. You may just have a one-track mind regarding ALL of the political machine and it's inner workings. You can't escape it. You can only try to improve upon it, and pray that future generations will continue to do so.
4. I have a sinking feeling that you think that I do not like guns and rifles. I am in the Army. I qualify expert with my 9mm and my M16A2 rifle every quarter. i hunt. I am friends with the head of the N.R.A.'s Public Relations Department Chief, Jules Duparc, out here in Virginia. I like weapons, but I sure as hell don't get off on them...And I am not saying that you do.
5. This thread was meant to tell a story of what happened to me. My certain instance is different from everyone elses. Why you may ask? Because no-one instance in life is the same; like a finger print. We post our good and bad here...sometimes to vent, other times to inform. That's all. Don't get pissed when some constructive critisism comes your way. I would still be stuck in Basic Training if I turned a deaf ear towards critisism.
Last, but not least...I think that I may be able to photoshop a gun rack to an S2K for you! PM me.
-Out
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Saying this:
" PS - many constitutionalists justifiably argue the very existence of the District of Columbia is unconsitutional..
The U.N....? hehe what a joke..
I a done with this. lock the thread if you want but no more from me.. "
Tells me a few things.
1. You didn't read into all of this thread. (see reason # 4)
2. You are right, D.C. is the prime example of " Taxation without representation." Hell, it is on the license plates!
3. You may just have a one-track mind regarding ALL of the political machine and it's inner workings. You can't escape it. You can only try to improve upon it, and pray that future generations will continue to do so.
4. I have a sinking feeling that you think that I do not like guns and rifles. I am in the Army. I qualify expert with my 9mm and my M16A2 rifle every quarter. i hunt. I am friends with the head of the N.R.A.'s Public Relations Department Chief, Jules Duparc, out here in Virginia. I like weapons, but I sure as hell don't get off on them...And I am not saying that you do.
5. This thread was meant to tell a story of what happened to me. My certain instance is different from everyone elses. Why you may ask? Because no-one instance in life is the same; like a finger print. We post our good and bad here...sometimes to vent, other times to inform. That's all. Don't get pissed when some constructive critisism comes your way. I would still be stuck in Basic Training if I turned a deaf ear towards critisism.
Last, but not least...I think that I may be able to photoshop a gun rack to an S2K for you! PM me.
-Out
MRI Guru