Well David.....I was the one that told them that the resistance needed to be different. Sorry but you just dont know the background to all this. They couldnt get it to work with every S2000. Yes they designed the mod but I gave them the info SPECIFICLY THE S2000. You are the one that isnt all together BUCKO! Stop spouting about information that you dont know the whole background of. You see the end results and whats up there.....you dont know about the year and a half that I have been talking with PAC and the Techs there that I have tought. I had this mod out Nov 1999 nobody yet has stepped up to the ****ING PLATE!

You can say im overcharging im say im being fair in my pricing and you know what. Your driving a 35,000 dollar sports car. How much does everything cost for this car. How much is a friggen cat back? What does it go for on any other car? Im not using it to justify my pricing but trying to pull you guys into the real world. This is a 150 dollar item others are spending 5,000 on a super charger. Can you venture to guess how much it costs? Or how much a Cat Back exhaust costs?(true materials cost) Then you go and squobble about 50 or 75 bucks labor that you should be able to make up in a day of work.

You know what....you guys are just plain cheap sometimes.

I withdraw my bid to be a distributor. I will stand to what I have done for a long time now. 150 Mod shipped plug and play wired. 130 with purchase of radio. This is a very nitche business. I plan to stay that way. There will always people out there looking to get the cheapest way out of things. Others want a challenge of doing it them selves others well frankly want a friggen radio in their car and want it done right. Those last people are the ones that I cater do and provide the customer service for.

This world has gone to far to the super cheap super low end NO CUSTOMER SERVICE CRAP! I will NOT run my business like that. I provide the best customer service that I possibly can! That along with my mod is what I provide. If your not willing to buy it. DON'T BRING IT UP TO ME.....don't fight with me. Just don't buy it! Others will and if they don't well im at no loss only they are.

Once you get all your pieces to gether let me know the costs and if it actually works and if they actually last.

I am not going to read this thread any longer its not work my time. Sorry to be harsh but its circling the toilet bowl.

 

If Pinky wants to be a full price commercial audio dealer, then he should sponsor this site. Should we create a poll to see if people think Pinky is overcharging?

 

Normally I would let this stuff go with a simple discussion, and even now I don't take it personally. But if this is the attitude, no problem, I'll step up to the.....uh, plate. As of tomorrow 5:00 p.m., I will place a simple schematic on my webpage showing all connections necessary to make the PAC work with our beloved babies.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pinky
[B]You can say im overcharging im say im being fair in my pricing and you know what.

 

RandyP,

Please do not do such a thing. It is Pinky's prerogative to charge what he so desires, and no one else's.

I also believe it is not our place to publicly flog him for charging a price some do not find reasonable. As with any product, if the price is too high, then consumers will not purchase the product, thereby forcing the seller to either lower their price, deal with low sales, or remove themselves from the market.

I wish Pinky the best, and he has opened up a nice market, one in which he may continue to prosper. But I believe the cavalier attitude of "if you don't like the way I do things, don't buy it" is going to turn off a lot of potential customers. He cannot ignore the fact the information is freely available to recreate the dash control mod, nor does he own any IP rights to such an idea. When faced with such facts, the successful business person will use those to his/her advantage, as I hope he will do.

But you do beg the question on whether or not he should become a sponsor if he wishes to continue his sales. I, for one, could care less either way. I remember a discussion about being able to sell online only if you are a sponsor, but cannot remember where that discussion led to.

 

The schematic is up (a few hours late...sorry), but I haven't taken a look at it yet (hope I grabbed the correct image).

 

MacGyver,

I took a look at it last night, so you have the right image. The schematic is pretty clear. How are you making those connections in the harness/radio wires for the PAC? Running 3 wires into a wirenut?

Any chance you are going to put up photos and a step-by-step of the entire installation process (including LED, running wires behind dash, etc.)?

BTW, I used your directions for the speaker replacement. Thanks for the help to your fellow S2K'ers!

Tanq

 

Hi all

Interesting thread. This dispute reveals a fundamental difference in philosophies regarding this board and relations among members. Some, like MacGyver, Almilli (sorry if I got your handle wrong) and others subscribe to a philosophy of sharing information among S2000 owners. Some regard fellow S2000 owners as a source of income. Pinky tinkers and profits. MacGyver tinkers and shares. MacGyver correctly points out that there will still be many folks who will not want to do the work themselves and who will purchase the harness and SW3 from Pinky's commercial venture. Others will save themselves $120 or so and try to do it themselves.

It seems to me that if a member treats this board and its members as a market for profit, they should help sponsor the board.

Another example is the fellas who are tinkering to make the Comptech supercharger work seemlessly and without hesitation. Members are sharing information and modified hardware. I didn't hear the fella who figured out the Ghostbooster thing (did I get the name right, if not, you might want to rename it) offering to sell it to fellow owners. I heard him offer to give it away. Heard someone on this board off to help another member to install his supercharger.

Anyway, MacGyver - Thank you for sharing the fruits of your tinkering with the rest of us. I think that's what this community is all about, at its best, but that's just my opinion.

2x6spds

 

After several hours of scratching my head over programming the "Mode" button I finally got all the dash controls to work except for the mute button using Lateoff's PAC and Macguyver's schematic. Thank you!!

The reason I left the mute button out is because my head unit doesn't have a mute wire... (it's possible to get it to work too using a modified version of Macguyver's circuit but I'd rather spend my time on other things) So now I am using the "ch" button as my mute button, which is fine for my purpose coz the "ch" button doesn't do much anyway.

I was unable to program my PAC using the 2.7k ohm resistor that came with the PAC allegedly. Nevertheless, after I bumped it up to 5.7k ohm (2,7k + 2k + 1k - these resistors came with the PAC), it worked fine. Maybe the PAC instruction wasn't right... or maybe it's a silver/black specific problem... wonder if anyone has the same problem with the 2.7k ohm resistor?

Anyway, getting the PAC to work isn't too difficult, I'd say it's about the same as installing your own head unit (wiring your own harness of course.)

If you haven't done any wiring or soldering before but you want the dash control to work with your head, it's better off paying someone else to do it for you instead of risking making a bonfire out of your own car. Otherwise, you should definitely give the PAC a try (at your own risk) !!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wasabe
[B]funny thing is, is that all this time i've been reading PAC, and i automatically assumed everyone was talking about Pinky's Audio Controls.

 

I am in the works to be a sponsor at http://www.s2kca.com. I still am unsure if I even want to do that. I have been a big supporter of people here for almost 2 years! I was here before most people. I have gotten my mod to dozens and dozens of people. Simply I have gotten a bit tired with the whole thing. Those that up to now that have wanted my mod got it. Those that are waiting for a solid state one or a "cheap" option are going to have to wait.

I do not do enough volume to support a sponsorship on the board. Plus this is THE ONLY thing that I have to sell. I have spoken with C3 and the way I stand is not 100% good with him but he lets it be as it may. I do not push my product hard but if somebody asks.....I give them my page link.

I knew the time would come that people would want to do the mod them selves. Though I will not support that because I am not a tech line! If you look on PAC's web sight it will show you a list of dealers in your area. I suggest that you contact one of them to be your distributor.....if you wish to buy it on your own. I will not. It will only be sold as a package ready to plug and program!