Plan on towing my S2000 with the Pilot during vacation! Thoughts?
I will tell everyone that the only reason that Honda does not want the car to be towed is because of the front end being hoisted too high and dragging the pipes.
Someone please tell me how the rear wheels rolling free while being towed can exert anywhere near the stress of vtec!!
I've towed mine with my dolly several times. the front wheels are only off the ground about 6 inches so there is plenty of clearance in the back.
For those of you that claim to have read the manual, on page 238 it does state to use a flatbed ONLY because of the possibility of the tow truck driver raising the front too high and dragging the pipes.
Towing is not for everybody. I have driven long haul trucks for several years and am very used to towing trailers. Just a guess but from reading this thread most of you don't have much experience with towing.
PS: airgate, I guess this means that you don't want to use my tow dolly.
Rick
Someone please tell me how the rear wheels rolling free while being towed can exert anywhere near the stress of vtec!!
I've towed mine with my dolly several times. the front wheels are only off the ground about 6 inches so there is plenty of clearance in the back.
For those of you that claim to have read the manual, on page 238 it does state to use a flatbed ONLY because of the possibility of the tow truck driver raising the front too high and dragging the pipes.
Towing is not for everybody. I have driven long haul trucks for several years and am very used to towing trailers. Just a guess but from reading this thread most of you don't have much experience with towing.
PS: airgate, I guess this means that you don't want to use my tow dolly.
Rick
Originally posted by BlackBeauty
PS: airgate, I guess this means that you don't want to use my tow dolly.
PS: airgate, I guess this means that you don't want to use my tow dolly.
I'm so confused!Hopefully we can talk about it on Wednesday in Richmond!
Looking forward to it! Honestly, I'd rather use a dolly than a full trailer. A full trailer will add at least 1000 lbs on top and that would certainly put the Pilot at the max!
Lets put this to bed once and for all.
I contacted American Honda (1-800-999-1009) today and was told that the only concern about towing an S2000 with a tow dolly or wrecker is raising the front too high and scraping the back end. It WILL NOT damage the drive train in any way shape or form.
airgate, your only dilemma now is to decide if you bought enough truck to tow with. If you had bought the Sequoia this wouldn't be an issue. Ha!!
I contacted American Honda (1-800-999-1009) today and was told that the only concern about towing an S2000 with a tow dolly or wrecker is raising the front too high and scraping the back end. It WILL NOT damage the drive train in any way shape or form.
airgate, your only dilemma now is to decide if you bought enough truck to tow with. If you had bought the Sequoia this wouldn't be an issue. Ha!!
You're right, that damn Toyota will probably only last 400,000 miles. And tow our S2000 God only knows how many thousand miles. But, since there is two of you it shouldn't be any problem driving both vehicles to the events!!
Originally posted by BlackBeauty
Lets put this to bed once and for all.
I contacted American Honda (1-800-999-1009) today and was told that the only concern about towing an S2000 with a tow dolly or wrecker is raising the front too high and scraping the back end. It WILL NOT damage the drive train in any way shape or form.
Lets put this to bed once and for all.
I contacted American Honda (1-800-999-1009) today and was told that the only concern about towing an S2000 with a tow dolly or wrecker is raising the front too high and scraping the back end. It WILL NOT damage the drive train in any way shape or form.
If you mount a debris skirt under the back bumper you will not have a problem with anything hitting the front of the car. These can be purchased from a RV dealer and mount on a track so they can be removed when you are not towing.
Since BlackBeauty has called Honda direct and reported their view, I notice that now folks have limited themselves to talking about pebbles flying up from the Pilot and hitting Raul's towed S2K. Not a bad point about the bra -- Raul, we should talk about me lending you my bra for your trip I think. I'll discuss ideas on that this Wednesday in Richmond.
Now...just in case anyone unfortunately decides to do a "my uncle said..." about towing a rear wheel drive vehicle with the rear wheels on the ground...
...Holy Lord!!!
What makes you think this car is sooooo different than any other rear wheel automobile that has been made?
I was born in 1965. As a child (note: that's "PRE"-Front wheel drive)...every flippin' automobile was hauled by a wrecker with a rubber-strapped sash that protected the chrome metal 89 lb front bumper from being scratched. Noooooooowadays, cars are made outta plastic and such a device for hauling is severely limited. More to the point, our S2K (plastic bumper aside), is simply too low to the ground to be hauled by such a means. Therefore, Honda made a point to indicate in the owners manual that should the car need to be hauled off, it can safely be done so by flatbed -- makes sense. But what it did *not* say is that hauling a rear-wheel drive automobile, whose transmission is set into neutral, will cause damage to the differential. To that point, if I rambled earlier, my basic point about "Pre-Front wheel drive" is that rear-wheel drive cars have been hauled for years with their nose up in the air and their rear differential freely rolling without damage to the car. As BB pointed out, as far as Honda is concerned, its about bottoming out the exhaust pipes.
Too bad we don't have a nice pic here of BlackBeauty's dolly. Its a nice setup. Low-runnin angle once the S is locked down to it...so the rear has plenty of clearance. Maybe we'll snap a shot or two of it next time BBs running with it & post them here. But please folks, pleeeease stop saying that towing the car with the front end lifted affects the rear differential. I'm afraid history is against you on this one. But I love all of you anyway!
- Dave
Now...just in case anyone unfortunately decides to do a "my uncle said..." about towing a rear wheel drive vehicle with the rear wheels on the ground...
...Holy Lord!!!
What makes you think this car is sooooo different than any other rear wheel automobile that has been made?
I was born in 1965. As a child (note: that's "PRE"-Front wheel drive)...every flippin' automobile was hauled by a wrecker with a rubber-strapped sash that protected the chrome metal 89 lb front bumper from being scratched. Noooooooowadays, cars are made outta plastic and such a device for hauling is severely limited. More to the point, our S2K (plastic bumper aside), is simply too low to the ground to be hauled by such a means. Therefore, Honda made a point to indicate in the owners manual that should the car need to be hauled off, it can safely be done so by flatbed -- makes sense. But what it did *not* say is that hauling a rear-wheel drive automobile, whose transmission is set into neutral, will cause damage to the differential. To that point, if I rambled earlier, my basic point about "Pre-Front wheel drive" is that rear-wheel drive cars have been hauled for years with their nose up in the air and their rear differential freely rolling without damage to the car. As BB pointed out, as far as Honda is concerned, its about bottoming out the exhaust pipes.Too bad we don't have a nice pic here of BlackBeauty's dolly. Its a nice setup. Low-runnin angle once the S is locked down to it...so the rear has plenty of clearance. Maybe we'll snap a shot or two of it next time BBs running with it & post them here. But please folks, pleeeease stop saying that towing the car with the front end lifted affects the rear differential. I'm afraid history is against you on this one. But I love all of you anyway!

- Dave








