Plan on towing my S2000 with the Pilot during vacation! Thoughts?
.....of course with the S2000's transmission being pressure lubed by an oil pump,.....and that oil pump is being driven off the input shaft NOT the tailshaft of the transmission,...well........ sounds like potential transmission problems down the line to me.
PS: I didn't have to ask my uncle about that.
PPS: Towing with a dolly gives you an extra 2,800+ pounds to stop down steep grades WITHOUT the added braking power a flatbed with electric brakes would give you.
PS: I didn't have to ask my uncle about that.
PPS: Towing with a dolly gives you an extra 2,800+ pounds to stop down steep grades WITHOUT the added braking power a flatbed with electric brakes would give you.
I would be willing to bet that the uncle that you didn't ask isn't an engineer for Honda. The oil pump is actually driven by the drive shaft and that is straight from the engineers at Honda!!
Any time that the rear wheels are turning the pump is operating.
So far I've seen a bunch of people that know absolutely nothing about towing respond to this thread and I've answered all of your unfounded questions with facts.
It's ok to tow an S 2000 on a dolly.
Rick
Any time that the rear wheels are turning the pump is operating.
So far I've seen a bunch of people that know absolutely nothing about towing respond to this thread and I've answered all of your unfounded questions with facts.
It's ok to tow an S 2000 on a dolly.
Rick
Blackbeauty - I know something about towing and I responded. See my sig for my current set-up.
As Bieg indicates, a simple dolly probably doesn't even have a surge brake. This is putting around 3000lbs behind a Honda Pilot. I don't think that the brakes on a Honda pilot were engineered to stop this much weight going down a mountain, much less several mountains. Not to mention all the gear/people in the Pilot.
If you put the S2000 on a flatbed car hauler with surge brakes (U-haul car haulers are about 2100lbs) that would put the total weight at about 5000lbs. I'm not sure what the tow rating on the Pilot is, but I wouldn't want to tow this much behind that vehicle.
Towing is serious business. As they say - you can't ever have too much truck. That's why I bought the biggest F'ing truck out there.
As Bieg indicates, a simple dolly probably doesn't even have a surge brake. This is putting around 3000lbs behind a Honda Pilot. I don't think that the brakes on a Honda pilot were engineered to stop this much weight going down a mountain, much less several mountains. Not to mention all the gear/people in the Pilot.
If you put the S2000 on a flatbed car hauler with surge brakes (U-haul car haulers are about 2100lbs) that would put the total weight at about 5000lbs. I'm not sure what the tow rating on the Pilot is, but I wouldn't want to tow this much behind that vehicle.
Towing is serious business. As they say - you can't ever have too much truck. That's why I bought the biggest F'ing truck out there.
Just wanted to suggest that it seems both BlackBeauty and meat have valid points on different issues related to towing an S2000 using a dolly.
BB's point is that an S2000 can be towed using a dolly w/o causing any damage to the S2000's drivetrain.
meat's point is that an S2000 can be too much weight behind a stock Honda Pilot.
Rick, you tow your S2K behind a Toyota Sequioia with a (site-based) towing capacity of 6,500/6,200. The Honda Pilot has a (site-based) towing capacity of 4500. Honda additionally states "Towing requires installation of power-steering- and tranmission fluid-cooler, both available exclusively from your Honda dealer. Maximum towing capacity is 4,500 lbs. for boat trailers and 3,500 lbs. for all other trailers."
Both are valid points.
BB's point is that an S2000 can be towed using a dolly w/o causing any damage to the S2000's drivetrain.
meat's point is that an S2000 can be too much weight behind a stock Honda Pilot.
Rick, you tow your S2K behind a Toyota Sequioia with a (site-based) towing capacity of 6,500/6,200. The Honda Pilot has a (site-based) towing capacity of 4500. Honda additionally states "Towing requires installation of power-steering- and tranmission fluid-cooler, both available exclusively from your Honda dealer. Maximum towing capacity is 4,500 lbs. for boat trailers and 3,500 lbs. for all other trailers."
Both are valid points.
Originally posted by BlackBeauty
Any time that the rear wheels are turning the pump is operating.
So far I've seen a bunch of people that know absolutely nothing about towing respond to this thread
Any time that the rear wheels are turning the pump is operating.
So far I've seen a bunch of people that know absolutely nothing about towing respond to this thread
Asif
My point is by far the most crucial.
You need to have a safe tow vehicle. Period.
Rock chips and banged up muffler tips are the least of your concern when you have a major case of sway happening while you decend a 7% grade and your brakes are smoking.
You need to have a safe tow vehicle. Period.
Rock chips and banged up muffler tips are the least of your concern when you have a major case of sway happening while you decend a 7% grade and your brakes are smoking.
Gentlemen,
You are absolutely right that you can't have too much tow vehicle. The people that I was referring to about towing experience are the ones that posted with things like "flatbed please" with no other explanation. It can't be overstated enough that towing is not for everyone, but in my situation it works out great.
If everyone had enough truck to pull a flatbed, Not to mention enough money to buy a flatbed this whole thread would be a non issue. Providing that you have the proper equipment, a tow dolly is a safe and economical alternative to a flatbed.
Thousands of cars are towed using a dolly every day. The only difference is an S2000 is a very special car. But, I say again if you have bought enough vehicle you can safely tow with a dolly.
Rick
You are absolutely right that you can't have too much tow vehicle. The people that I was referring to about towing experience are the ones that posted with things like "flatbed please" with no other explanation. It can't be overstated enough that towing is not for everyone, but in my situation it works out great.
If everyone had enough truck to pull a flatbed, Not to mention enough money to buy a flatbed this whole thread would be a non issue. Providing that you have the proper equipment, a tow dolly is a safe and economical alternative to a flatbed.
Thousands of cars are towed using a dolly every day. The only difference is an S2000 is a very special car. But, I say again if you have bought enough vehicle you can safely tow with a dolly.
Rick






