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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by IIGQ4U,Oct 11 2007, 10:38 AM
You need to keep in mind that most people will not track their S. For daily, I am running 225 45/, 235/40. My favorite track setup however is 235/255 even though the steering is a bit more sluggish.
The wider the front tire is the more oversteer you're going to have. I'm just saying for high speed stability.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by IIGQ4U,Oct 11 2007, 12:28 PM
He could run 205/235 Falken or 215/245 other brands.

I recommended the Falken 235 as they are about the same size as other brands' 245s.
Why not go all the way down to a 195?

YIKES I can see it already, this is another "I wrecked my S" thread in the making. Anyone want to take bets on how long it will be before he wrecks his car if he runs 235 or smaller tires?

And we wonder where all those massive oversteer stories come from.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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How fast do you expect people to go on the street? Clearly if the speed limits are being exceeded, it is illegal and at the driver's own risk.

Yes, wider front = more oversteer which is why we have additional adjustments counteract certain tendencies and to align your vehicle with your driving style.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Speed limits really are irrelavent for us and you know that! But that's not what i'm talking about. Say you are doing the speed limit and a large object suddenly appears in your path at 70mph. You're going to swerve and you're going to swing the back out, the more tire you have the less likely you are to have the rear come out. He already has 9 inch wheels on the back. Might as well make use of them.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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It has nothing to do with speed limits, it has to do with the back end staying planted around corners, on freeway on/off ramps, an emergency situation, etc. Just real world everyday stuff.

Most of the "wrecked it" threads happened on the street doing everyday stuff, not on the track or at excessive speeds.

Of course the definition of excessive speed drops considerably when your tires are too small because the car will no longer handle like a sports car and yet mentally you may still be driving it like a sports car.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Oct 11 2007, 11:46 AM
Why not go all the way down to a 195?

YIKES I can see it already, this is another "I wrecked my S" thread in the making. Anyone want to take bets on how long it will be before he wrecks his car if he runs 235 or smaller tires?

And we wonder where all those massive oversteer stories come from.
205/235 maintains the factory stagger.

The Falken RT615s are basically an oversided tire so essentially their 205/235 is a 215/245. I don't hear any complaints about this setup? The same goes for 225/255.

Depending on your alignment settings, oversteer is minimal with the factory settings. In fact, when I first begain autocrossing, my car pushed greatly until I began to make adjustments

Also, where would increased oversteer come into play with the 30mm stagger?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by N2oExpresS2k,Oct 11 2007, 11:56 AM
Speed limits really are irrelavent for us and you know that! But that's not what i'm talking about. Say you are doing the speed limit and a large object suddenly appears in your path at 70mph. You're going to swerve and you're going to swing the back out, the more tire you have the less likely you are to have the rear come out. He already has 9 inch wheels on the back. Might as well make use of them.
True, but a 255 tire is pushing it in the rear... Again it's doable but it cuts it glose with his offsets.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Oct 11 2007, 12:07 PM
It has nothing to do with speed limits, it has to do with the back end staying planted around corners, on freeway on/off ramps, an emergency situation, etc. Just real world everyday stuff.

Most of the "wrecked it" threads happened on the street doing everyday stuff, not on the track or at excessive speeds.

Of course the definition of excessive speed drops considerably when your tires are too small because the car will no longer handle like a sports car and yet mentally you may still be driving it like a sports car.
I believe that a number of accidents have more to do with people not knowing how to react.

A number of accidents that I have read about involve people swerving while on the brakes. This will induce oversteer in most any car.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Keep in mind that stock tires are wider than they are rated therefore a using stock sizes in another tire is undersized and can dramatically affect handling. And that's BEFORE you factor in tire grip.

As an example, I had 255s that were over 1/2" narrower than the stockers.

The issue here is that the OP needs very narrow tires on the rear to keep from rubbing. In his case, to stop rubbing since he is too cheap (or uneducated) to run rims that fit he will have to have undersize tires.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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[QUOTE=IIGQ4U,Oct 11 2007, 11:20 AM]205/235 maintains the factory stagger.

The Falken RT615s are basically an oversided tire so essentially their 205/235 is a 215/245.
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