hold the VSA button and voila, it goes away.

although its only 237 horses on paper, ap2v2 usually dynos 210whp. ap1s typically dyno ~200whp. so no, you dont notice the HP "loss."

before this becomes an ap1vsap2 thread, ap2s have an extra 50 lbs, effectively nearly halving that HP difference, so it comes down to the driver every time on which is faster on the street. that, and any of the basic mods (ie test pipe) close that "gap" too.

the real difference is the ap2 has 8k redline--not as raucous (pity IMO)--updated styling, and more torque at the bottom end. also, i like the carbon synchros, but i never owned an ap1 so it may not be that much different. effective gearing is slightly shorter on an ap2, but only slightly (4%?).

as for drifting, you cant drift the s2k anywhere near as easily as a number of other cars, such as the 350z or 240sx. i often hear you can buy a 240 and an s2k for the same money as buying an s2k and paying to properly set it up for drift. but if "drifting" is little more than a few ebrake turns and power oversteer, click off VSA and shred some tire; you can do that without much trouble.

 

Ok. Listen. And listen good if you dont want another totaled car.

You can not, in any shape or form, safely drift an s2000 without spending tons of money. Do not try to drift in an s2000 unless your in a HUGE empty parking lot where there is absolutely nothing you can crash into.

The s2000 handles HORRIBLY in the rain, you must be very careful as RWD + RAIN + CORNERS do not mix very well. Its very very easy to lose control in the rain, the vsa will help. The vsa is a really good thing to have. And again, please do not try to drift this car.

 

VSA helps tons in the rain. careful driving is the best thing you have against crashing into stuff.

 

As stated already, there really isn't much change. The AP2 has a 'softer' suspension, slightly more torque than the AP1 and some cosmetic changes, but that's about it.

 

Do yourself a favor and get a 240sx or 350z if you're going to drift. I'm not trying to be a jerk. Just saying that will be a cheaper AND better set up for it.

 

I know your not trying to be a jerk paul S I would diff get a 350z if I wanted to drift. but with the information gbmurderer has thankfully given me I won't even attempt to drift my soon to be S2k not that i'm even a amateur competitive drifter just like to do it every once in a while in a junkie car or in my friends 240sx note thankfully I suck at drifting so I won't even try it on the S2k. And thank you ace 123 for telling me how to turn off the VSA ...but with my luck I think I would have it on, unless it handicaps me in a one way. and a bit off topic but I glad I signed up for this board you all are very helpful and knowledgeable, and you guys didn't make me feel like such a noobie ...I hope to buy myself some membership as soon as I get an S2k that way I don't Jinx myself ...

 

RWD + rain + corners = fine
RWD + rain + corners + stupid = bad

Drivetrain, water, or curving pavement don't wreck cars. Stupid wrecks cars.

 

Beginners to rwd can wreck as car just as easily as a 'stupid' owner. There is a difference between an honest mistake and trying to be stupid and drift a car in the rain.