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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Feb 1 2007, 12:21 PM
I don't see how it's always a bad thing. Who cares if they don't pay for new stuff. I can just have them cut me a check. Let's say I get my top slashed, seats are stolen, along with steering wheel, and they tried to steal my cd player. This is a scenario "for instance"

Let's assume the damages are roughly 10K, but the insurance wants to pay for refurbished used crap blah blah and the total only comes to 4500. SO WHAT? I can buy a used hardtop and used Brides for that much. Or, I could get a new top for 450 bucks (yes, that's how much soft tops are going for), and two used seats off ebay for 800 or so, and pocket a few grand.

If you have insurance cut you a check (make sure your comprehensive deductible is low people), you can do whatever the hell you want with the money.

I was in a hit and run last march. My passenger headlight, front bumper, front passenger fender, passenger rear quarter panel, ryaear bumper, and rear taillight were all damaged. After my deductible, I was cut a check for 3600. What did I do with the money? First, I porter cabled the headlight and got the scratches out, and bought a used tailight for 50 bucks. I was paid around 500 for those two items - so, I was able to cover my comprehensive deductible right there. Then, I found a used front bumper and passenger front fender in my same NFR color for 250 each. I was paid what, 1500 for those two items and only spent 500? I pocketed a grand right there. I'm still trying to find a rear bumper and when I do, I'll put it on and have a body shop massage the rear quarter as it doesn't need to be replaced, only popped out and masseged a bit.

In the end, I will have pocketed almost 2 grand for that accident. You have to know how to spend money wisely. I'm not rich by any means, but I spend money "smartly" and don't mind driving a damaged car for awhile looking for used parts in my color as long as I can MAKE money in the long run.

I'm not advocating theft here, I think it's horrible and if I caught someone in the act, I'd have my pit bull terrier eat their faces off However, if you're someone who is a victim of theft (I have been before in an old car of mine), you should do everything you can to NOT be inconvenienced and make some money out of it for compensation. This can be with better parts or buying used and pocketing the rest.
Justin, I respect your opinion although my point of view is different.

I would consider myself in a good place if I paid auto insurance all my life and never had to make a claim. Never had to go through the heart break and helplessness of finding my car broken into and burglarized. Never having to go through the hassle of dealing with an insurance do that's only business is to low ball me and put me in a situation where I cannot get my car back to the EXACT condition it was in before the incident.

I take care of my car and try to keep it in as good condition as possible. I would not get any enjoyment about putting used parts on it or having someone else do it.

This is the reason I don't buy used cars.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by achtung6,Feb 1 2007, 01:46 PM
Because AP2 seats have a gunmetal gray colored ring on the back of the seats where the "headrest" is. AP1 seats have this ring or trimpiece in black.
Easliy swapped. Easily as in "no tools required". Black or gray means little.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Feb 1 2007, 09:21 AM
I don't see how it's always a bad thing. Who cares if they don't pay for new stuff. I can just have them cut me a check. Let's say I get my top slashed, seats are stolen, along with steering wheel, and they tried to steal my cd player. This is a scenario "for instance"

Let's assume the damages are roughly 10K, but the insurance wants to pay for refurbished used crap blah blah and the total only comes to 4500. SO WHAT? I can buy a used hardtop and used Brides for that much. Or, I could get a new top for 450 bucks (yes, that's how much soft tops are going for), and two used seats off ebay for 800 or so, and pocket a few grand.

If you have insurance cut you a check (make sure your comprehensive deductible is low people), you can do whatever the hell you want with the money.

I was in a hit and run last march. My passenger headlight, front bumper, front passenger fender, passenger rear quarter panel, ryaear bumper, and rear taillight were all damaged. After my deductible, I was cut a check for 3600. What did I do with the money? First, I porter cabled the headlight and got the scratches out, and bought a used tailight for 50 bucks. I was paid around 500 for those two items - so, I was able to cover my comprehensive deductible right there. Then, I found a used front bumper and passenger front fender in my same NFR color for 250 each. I was paid what, 1500 for those two items and only spent 500? I pocketed a grand right there. I'm still trying to find a rear bumper and when I do, I'll put it on and have a body shop massage the rear quarter as it doesn't need to be replaced, only popped out and masseged a bit.

In the end, I will have pocketed almost 2 grand for that accident. You have to know how to spend money wisely. I'm not rich by any means, but I spend money "smartly" and don't mind driving a damaged car for awhile looking for used parts in my color as long as I can MAKE money in the long run.

I'm not advocating theft here, I think it's horrible and if I caught someone in the act, I'd have my pit bull terrier eat their faces off However, if you're someone who is a victim of theft (I have been before in an old car of mine), you should do everything you can to NOT be inconvenienced and make some money out of it for compensation. This can be with better parts or buying used and pocketing the rest.
And how much is your insurance a month right now? If it's low, enjoy it while it lasts, because if your car DOES get broken into, you're likely to get dropped and your rates will skyrocket, due to all the claims you have.

Plus, wait until you go to sell your car. That little "$2000" that you pocketed from your minor acident will be lost when the carfax shows an accident. Good luck trying to sell a "wrecked" S2000, trust me from experience, it's a lot tougher than you think. You will have to take a lot less to get it sold.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by stealthx32,Feb 1 2007, 08:25 AM
How do you KNOW they are stolen? Don't get me wrong, I would hate to have my seats stolen, but you guys are on a witchhunt.
You're right. No one on here KNOW's that they are stolen. Only the seller probably knows that. However, if you look at the facts, it's certainly shady.

Everyone should care. You think that the only way this affects you is if your seats are stolen (and many seem to think its fine because of insurance). Wrong. Every time someone's seats are stolen (or they wreck, or any other insurance claim) it indirectly hits your wallet. Claims data is collected by all insurance agencies in order to spread risk among a population. That's one reason insurance is expensive for our little toys. The fewer claims/thefts we have to deal with, the lower everyone's premiums will be.

By looking out for other owners, you're looking out for your own wallet.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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I almost bought the first set off the guy ... the black/red ones but I got suspicious because the pictures he used for the sale were someone else's pictures who's also selling black/red seats on Honda-Tech.

Its possible that the guy owns a junkyard or maybe he lives near a junkyard and just realized that selling the seats online is very profitable. But it does seem shady, especially since the pictures he's using are always the same for the black seats -- And the black/red ones aren't even his pics.

Link for reference: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1876233

I supposed the Honda-Tech guy could be the same person as the eBay seller, but when I asked the seller why the pics he used were on Honda-Tech he never responded. In addition, the seller on Honda-Tech is listed as living in GA while the seller on eBay is listed as living in MT.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by achtung6,Feb 1 2007, 10:46 AM
Because AP2 seats have a gunmetal gray colored ring on the back of the seats where the "headrest" is. AP1 seats have this ring or trimpiece in black.
Wrong.

MY02 and up have that gunmetal ring on the back of the headrest.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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if ur seats get stolen u can replace them as well as get a hardtop as well as put away 4k in the bank easy. i have state farm they issue a check in the ballpark of 8k for slashed top an seats. i dont want any problems but if they take em i wont be crying either.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kntrider,Feb 1 2007, 05:52 PM
Wrong.

MY02 and up have that gunmetal ring on the back of the headrest.
Thanks for clearing that up. But this means the seats in my friend's '04 are now '00 or '01 thanks to thieves....
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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It is definitely shady. In both the black seat auctions, he is stating they were taken out of his car. How is this possible with only 2 seats? I am fairly certain all of these seats are stolen. Also the money insurance pays out to have cars tops replaced along with seats comes out of someones pocket. What that means is higher insurance costs and premiums for all. I personally don't want to screw with insurance, so that means seat locks and an eventual hardtop for me
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gsolman,Feb 1 2007, 01:12 PM
And why do you think insurance costs so much? I can tell you it is partly b/c some owners do not take the necessary precautions, stuff gets stolen, and premiums get raised. And are you aware that the parts used in repairs do not necessarily have to be new? Did you stop to think that stolen parts support black markets and crime?

Your comments on the emissions/straight pipe thread were equally thoughtless.
Your POV sound more like an anarchist than a libertarian.
Necessary precautions? Are you saying it's my JOB to buy seat locks or I'm supporting the blackmarket? It's not my JOB to do anything. I can do whatever I want with my car. If seat theft is a problem, then Honda should have thought that through a little more, or changed the design. It isn't MY job to do anything to prevent what someone else does. It is only MY job to take care of MY own life and not infringe upon the rights of another. THAT is what libertarianism is about. Anarchy? Don't lecture me on politics buddy. Have fun voting for Hilary in 08.

Liberals

And did you not read what I said about doing the repairs yourself? Why the hell would I pay for a brand new part, brand new paint, and LABOR (which is utterly ridiculous) when I can get a used part in my color and do it myself? Yes, I realize stolen parts are supporting the black market, but it's not MY job to stop it. I am an American and I have the right to do whatever I want with my life as long as it does not infringe on another. My views on test pipes were not "thoughtless" either. Just because you "think" with your "heart" (liberal) doesn't mean anyone else's view is "thoughtless".
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