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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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Heavy steering does not mean more feedback though. Road feedback is much different than steering effort.

Many think the S2000 has great steering feedback, but like I said before, many are also coming from cars with absolutely no feedback. The S2000 is leaps and bounds above a Toyota Camry, but it's still no Porsche Cayman S or a BMW M3.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by socals
The s2000 steering feel is amount the best on the road regardless of price

this thread fails! It is amazing to me the topics that get started here

What is next a thread discussing the annoying chassis flex in the s2000?
Best on the road?

... Drive more cars.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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Not trying to start the mx5 vs s2000 debate which I am sure has been beat to death and is not a fair comparison in general. However speaking strictly of steering feel..I just came from a 99 mazda mx5 and the steering feel on it was, in my opinion, superior and something I already miss. It was not enough to sway me away from deciding on the S though.

Either way, I'm very happy with my s2000 and wouldn't trade it but I do wish the steering was not so heavy. If I could combine the steering feel of the mx5 with everything else on the s2000 that would be great.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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As with most cars it takes a while to get used to it. Drive the S for a while and the Miata will feel strange when you drive it again.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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It's numb compared to manual and hydraulic power steering racks. The steering response and weighting is good, but there's just not much coming back through the steering wheel to indicate what's going on at the front wheels.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick 87
Originally Posted by ChrisHS2000' timestamp='1324782452' post='21262164
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My Accord provides more feedback about road feel and available grip than my S2000. Of course the S2000 is way more responsive, accurate, and the grip levels are WAY higher. But as the OP said, you learn to drive from chassis motion and yaw rather than steering feel.
+1 for the 7th gen Accord steering feel. I take on-ramps at least 20% faster in my Accord because I'm so paranoid with the S and can't get accurate feedback until it's on the edge. I need to track it next year!
As an owner of both a 2006 2dr Accord V6-6 speed, and a 2007 s2k, i have got to say i think you are doing something wrong...

The only thing i feel out of the accord when trying to take an on-ramp at a decent pace is the narrow front tires scrubbing for grip while the front heavy car does nothing accept want to understeer. I even have the TL-S rear sway bar to help induce a little more oversteer...

The s2k on the other hand is nothing but bliss when taking on-ramps at the same same speed and then some. Feels much more direct and connected then the Accord's steering. I dont have experience here, but i'd bet i would feel the s2k's tire feedback just as much as the accord's, if the speeds were increased by 30% or so.
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Probably because I have a good suspension setup on my Accord and am running 245/40/ZR18's in the summer. The stock setup on that car is not made for handling.

I didn't say the Accord has higher limits, I said that I take on-ramps faster because I can better feel what's going on. The weighting of the S2000 steering is good and it's obviously very direct, but there's zero feedback from it. I've only had it for around 9k miles and didn't get a chance to track it last year, so I haven't learned to drive by chassis feel yet.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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(Just as a general rule, you shouldn't post that your front wheel drive Accord with a huge weight bias up front, heavier chassis weight, higher CG and less horsepower goes around any corner faster than an S2000.)
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:22 AM
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I get a pretty good feel for the limits from the chassis and even more so from tire noise. The Star Specs have a distinct range of sounds when you are approaching the limit of adhesion, I have found.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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As others have said, there's steering feel, and steering FEEDBACK. The latter, the s2k has next to none of. Drive an older honda that has a regular hydraulic rack, and you can generally tell quite a bit from the steering wheel feedback. I certainly miss the feedback, but it's one of the few drawbacks of the car that I can certainly live with.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by s2ka
(Just as a general rule, you shouldn't post that your front wheel drive Accord with a huge weight bias up front, heavier chassis weight, higher CG and less horsepower goes around any corner faster than an S2000.)
Actually, most people are surprised by this...but my Accord has quite a bit more horsepower and is only heavier by a passenger weight. Last time it was on a dyno it was at 230whp with 90% peak torque from 1500-6500RPM. Since then I've put on a couple of additional mods, I would guess conservatively it's around 260-270hp at the crank. I raced both last summer from 20 and 40MPH with one of my friends driving my S2K and me driving my Accord...the Accord stomped it without a problem. Obviously it's not a sports car like the S2000 and proves about 1/10th the driving excitement and has zero character, but it is quite a bit faster in a straight line and does have excellent steering and handling for what it is I didn't buy the S for its acceleration!

(I have to stick up for my Accord, I've had her for a lot longer and she gets jealous that I almost exclusively drive the S in the summer.)
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