S2000 sticker shock
Originally Posted by AusS2000,Nov 21 2004, 02:06 AM
Since you're not familiar with the english language I'll not take offense.
"Creator" is fundamental to our founding documents if you ever get the time to read them.
And I guess since you don't know me you are unaware of my Native American heritage. One that loves my country and my people. We learn from history. Not try to relive it.
Of the many things I am apparently not aware of the one that pops to mind the most is why you keep avoiding the subject you alluded to earlier in this discussion. I said we pay a lot of taxes etc and you said I was being raped by the government. I suggested that the reason was that MY government was protecting my job.
Rather than address that point we are now talking english grammar, religion, and verbatim regurgitation of old documents. I can only take it that you don't have a response.
Rather than address that point we are now talking english grammar, religion, and verbatim regurgitation of old documents. I can only take it that you don't have a response.
Originally Posted by S2000GT,Nov 21 2004, 05:01 AM
which is exactly what i did 

I recently visited California. I would say that the equivalent cost of your staples are very similar in the States than the UK
Food is very similar in price
Clothes are cheaper in the UK
hotel accom is very similar in price.
Houses are similar in price
When I visited the States 10 years ago this was not the case. The US was definately cheaper.
Of course there are exceptions. Gasoline & car prices being one. But this has more to do with the distortionary effect of taxes and import/export duties.
Regards taxes on salary. I have a friend working in Boston. On 100K. He tells me that although US income tax is lower the actual take home pay is no different to what he would receive in the UK because of Healthcare costs
Back to original question. The Economist recently put Ireland Number 1 as the best place to live in the world for quality of life. They pay more for their cars but they can drive their cars around the countryside relatively traffic free
Originally Posted by Moggy,Nov 21 2004, 07:14 AM
They pay more for their cars but they can drive their cars around the countryside relatively traffic free 

As anyone who has done travel knows, every place has it's up's and down's. I love the USA and served her but I don't believe in preaching to the world, cause she certainly isn't perfect no matter how well intended the documents that formed her ideals.
Originally Posted by AusS2000,Nov 21 2004, 02:56 AM
Of the many things I am apparently not aware of the one that pops to mind the most is why you keep avoiding the subject you alluded to earlier in this discussion. I said we pay a lot of taxes etc and you said I was being raped by the government. I suggested that the reason was that MY government was protecting my job.
Rather than address that point we are now talking english grammar, religion, and verbatim regurgitation of old documents. I can only take it that you don't have a response.
Rather than address that point we are now talking english grammar, religion, and verbatim regurgitation of old documents. I can only take it that you don't have a response.
When I state facts to back my research you censure my 2 am grammer and want to publicly burn the historical foundations and evidence I present for your full disclosure.
"...talking english grammar, religion, and verbatim regurgitation of old documents".
It's called correctly learning from history. Contrasted to obvious myopic self-assumption. <-- Sorry if I sound harsh. I can be passionate about such things.
Originally Posted by KenS2K,Nov 22 2004, 07:43 AM
Actually, I did try to address it, but you didn't have any "facts" to address. You only have presumptions. When I ask for facts to back up your assumptions you cry "audit".

Whether or not I know the exact figure collected in taxes and duties for the previous fiscal year, and exactly how much of that was spent on the automotive industry in no way impacts on whether what I said is true or not.
The simple fact is that the major cause of increase in price of an S2000 in Australia is government imposed taxes and duties. Even if none of this money goes to the Australian auto manufacturers and associated industries (and I can assure you they are subsidised plenty) it doesn't change the fact that artificially increasing the cost of imports makes local products more competitive in our market.
Then you started talking 'rape'. An inane and purile response to a sensible argument. Unless you can address the point above (without the need for specific numbers or high school language) then you're off-topic.




