S2K Bites The Dust (or tree)
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From: houston
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elizer
i call bs on your story too, i told you to learn to drive the rwd before you did anything stupid, you came from 2 fwd cars theres no way in 1 month you got enough experience to know this car.
i call bs on your story too, i told you to learn to drive the rwd before you did anything stupid, you came from 2 fwd cars theres no way in 1 month you got enough experience to know this car.
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From: Mississauga
While I agree that there is more to this story, is there any particular reason to fully believe what Elizer posted? Do you know him personally? I was actually surprised when he went off like that on the original poster.. shrug.
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So I guess I'm the worst driver in the world, because of what's been said. But understand, I had this car because the first crash wasn't my fault.
The only way I could have avoided the accident was to slow down to 5-10mph when my light was green. How many of you do this?
I'd like to think none of you, simply for the fear that you'll get rear-ended. My first accident was what you call getting blind-sided.
I don't really feel the need to go into details, because all expenses were paid for, and the other driver admit to fault instantly.
The second car, was STOLEN, and totalled by the idiots who stole it. I had nothing to do with it. While this was going on, I was sleeping in my bed.
And lastly, I don't not admit that there may have been some driver error in this accident.
I for one, really can't say due to the fact that the effects of a concussion have got the better of me.
My friend, who was a witness would know more than me.
The only way I could have avoided the accident was to slow down to 5-10mph when my light was green. How many of you do this?
I'd like to think none of you, simply for the fear that you'll get rear-ended. My first accident was what you call getting blind-sided.
I don't really feel the need to go into details, because all expenses were paid for, and the other driver admit to fault instantly.
The second car, was STOLEN, and totalled by the idiots who stole it. I had nothing to do with it. While this was going on, I was sleeping in my bed.
And lastly, I don't not admit that there may have been some driver error in this accident.
I for one, really can't say due to the fact that the effects of a concussion have got the better of me.
My friend, who was a witness would know more than me.
Never wrecked a car, huh? Toolbag.
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From: Orange County
OK, now that we have established that the driver was at LEAST partly responsible for this accident, MY question is "how do you drive the S correctly so as not to have a repeat performance" of this incident?
I ask this because I purchased an S about a month ago (used), and I had my first "at fault" accident ever 2 weeks later (I'm over 40 years old, and do not consider myself a "wild man" driver) when I was behind aa lady who had a left turn (green light) in front of on-coming traffic (she was the first in line at the light, with me behind her).
She had several opportunities to take the left turn safely, but for some reason was hesitating, causing traffic behind her to get backed-up, and encouraging everybody (including me!) to lean on their horns, causing a great caucaphony of sound.
Growing impatient, I swerved around her (left side), made the left turn through the intersection, and before I could get to 2nd the rear of the car stepped-out (fish-tailed) and I over-corrected and slid into a car and side-swiped it's left front fender with my left-front fender and left bumper area.
While I was going quite slowly (25MPH), the damage was about $900 to her car ( a Ford sedan), and about $1100 to my S, all cosmetic of course, but still left me feeling very frustrated and confused.
Frustrated because I used to race motorcycles, and still do track days where I routinely exceed 160MPH while leaned over at VERY extreme angles,scraping my knee-sliders on the tarmac ( all under proper track conditions of course), but also confused because I always "thought" that you are "supposed to accelarate out of a skid", rather than immediately lock-up the brakes and thereby give up ANY hope of regaining control of the vehicle.
So, while the actual cost of repairs was minimal (and I used the $$ to get a C-West bumper, side skirts, and other minor mods), I am still upset about how I could/ should have handeled myself in that situation.
Granted, I was impatient with the driver in front of me, and the other drivers honking made me even more anxious to go. When I dropped it into gear, I wanted to be certain that I got 100% clear of this woman so she wouldn't turn into me when I went around her left side to make the left turn, (admittedly a risky and improper move), but I guess I didn't anticipate the amount of throttle I gave and caused the skid. Conditions were dry (daylight), the tires are the original 2 year old S02's (maybe 30 % tread on the rears, 60% front), and I thought I knew how to drive the car, but apparently not!
So, my real point is that no matter how "experienced" you think you are, you can always improve!
I am not trying to "blame" my tires, or find some excuse (because there isn't any)--rather I want to ask your collective opinions as to how to improve my skills and confidence driving the car!
I haven't had a RWD car since the 1968 Camaro I had in the early 70's, and (obviously) all my motorcycle racing experience didn't seem to help....
Any books, Internet sites, track schools that really help the driver to KNOW his vehicle is what I am looking for. As a racer, you always try to analyze what you did and why you did it, and that's the point I am at now.
Sorry for the long ramble, but I see a LOT of "expert" opinions and advice, so here I am!
Thanks,
HMB
I ask this because I purchased an S about a month ago (used), and I had my first "at fault" accident ever 2 weeks later (I'm over 40 years old, and do not consider myself a "wild man" driver) when I was behind aa lady who had a left turn (green light) in front of on-coming traffic (she was the first in line at the light, with me behind her).
She had several opportunities to take the left turn safely, but for some reason was hesitating, causing traffic behind her to get backed-up, and encouraging everybody (including me!) to lean on their horns, causing a great caucaphony of sound.
Growing impatient, I swerved around her (left side), made the left turn through the intersection, and before I could get to 2nd the rear of the car stepped-out (fish-tailed) and I over-corrected and slid into a car and side-swiped it's left front fender with my left-front fender and left bumper area.
While I was going quite slowly (25MPH), the damage was about $900 to her car ( a Ford sedan), and about $1100 to my S, all cosmetic of course, but still left me feeling very frustrated and confused.
Frustrated because I used to race motorcycles, and still do track days where I routinely exceed 160MPH while leaned over at VERY extreme angles,scraping my knee-sliders on the tarmac ( all under proper track conditions of course), but also confused because I always "thought" that you are "supposed to accelarate out of a skid", rather than immediately lock-up the brakes and thereby give up ANY hope of regaining control of the vehicle.
So, while the actual cost of repairs was minimal (and I used the $$ to get a C-West bumper, side skirts, and other minor mods), I am still upset about how I could/ should have handeled myself in that situation.
Granted, I was impatient with the driver in front of me, and the other drivers honking made me even more anxious to go. When I dropped it into gear, I wanted to be certain that I got 100% clear of this woman so she wouldn't turn into me when I went around her left side to make the left turn, (admittedly a risky and improper move), but I guess I didn't anticipate the amount of throttle I gave and caused the skid. Conditions were dry (daylight), the tires are the original 2 year old S02's (maybe 30 % tread on the rears, 60% front), and I thought I knew how to drive the car, but apparently not!
So, my real point is that no matter how "experienced" you think you are, you can always improve!
I am not trying to "blame" my tires, or find some excuse (because there isn't any)--rather I want to ask your collective opinions as to how to improve my skills and confidence driving the car!
I haven't had a RWD car since the 1968 Camaro I had in the early 70's, and (obviously) all my motorcycle racing experience didn't seem to help....
Any books, Internet sites, track schools that really help the driver to KNOW his vehicle is what I am looking for. As a racer, you always try to analyze what you did and why you did it, and that's the point I am at now.
Sorry for the long ramble, but I see a LOT of "expert" opinions and advice, so here I am!
Thanks,
HMB