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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Sounds like you need VSA, get an 06+
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 8 2007, 05:16 PM
Dizzymon, I'm trying to get a handle on what actually happened here.

How did you manage to do a full 360? If you'll look at the animated gif in my signature you'll see one way to do it, but other than a full burn it's actually very hard to get the tail to come all the way around so you end up facing in the same direction. Normally the car will step out, but it always steps back in as soon as you correct (or slides sideways to a quick stop). Did you wag the tail a few times before actually spinning?
I think I might have locked my wheels or over steering. Those two things I think I might have done, but definitely not giving it too much gas to cause the spin out. If I did I'd surely have hit the curb on the 2 lane street. Ok so with a rear wheel drive car you counter steer? I'm a bit confused. I'm still new to RWD cars even though I had one for 1.5 years which didn't have as much torque.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dizzymon,Feb 9 2007, 02:17 AM
I think I might have locked my wheels or over steering. Those two things I think I might have done, but definitely not giving it too much gas to cause the spin out. If I did I'd surely have hit the curb on the 2 lane street. Ok so with a rear wheel drive car you counter steer? I'm a bit confused. I'm still new to RWD cars even though I had one for 1.5 years which didn't have as much torque.
You don't perchance still have the spring spacers in your rear springs do you?

Like everyone else, I'm having a hard time understanding how you could spin 360 degrees at such a low speed, but FWIW driving this car on worn out tires is a really bad idea.

Countersteering: With any car, when the back end starts to come around, you want to countersteer; IOW, you want to steer in the direction of the slide. You also want to make throttle changes gently/slowly/smoothly. Even if the slide is caused by excessive throttle mid-turn you still don't want to just get off the throttle suddenly. That will just make things worse. Adjust the throttle smoothly to help the back tires regain traction, and countersteer. Substitute the words "driving wheels" for "back tires" in the previous sentence and you have the rule for any four wheeled vehicle with front wheel steering.

Spins (at least the accidental ones) are usualy the result of multiple errors, and you may never fully understand what happened. However, after the slide started I have to believe that you reacted inappropriately, otherwise you would have not done a complete 360. The best way to learn to react properly is to attend a good driving school and/or participating in autocrosses. Very few of us are so good that we don't benefit from these schools so I'm not implying that you can't drive. I go to Evolution Schools every time I get a chance, and every time I come away a better driver.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dizzymon,Feb 8 2007, 07:27 AM
at marginally slow speeds about 10-15mph, my rear came loose and I spun a 360.
You spun around 360 degree's from 10-15mph



Sorry Bro, but I'm gonna have to call
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 02:14 AM
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Wait a minute...Could you teach me how to do this

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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Intentionally I've managed to pull a 180 on a wet parking lot but a full 360 takes more than just driver error. It takes some serious skill!
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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While we're on topic.. how do you test whether the diff is working or is it blown?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sfkn2,Feb 9 2007, 02:35 PM
While we're on topic.. how do you test whether the diff is working or is it blown?
Well if you mean the ring and pinion gears you'll usually hear a whining noise that gets progressively louder followed by grinding noises and eventually the car stops moving.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RACER,Feb 9 2007, 06:14 AM
Wait a minute...Could you teach me how to do this
It's easy and doesn't really require "serious skill." See the little animated gif in my signature to see just how easy it is. OTOH I think it's impossible to do accidently, so I suspect the OP was actually traveling somewhat faster than he realized.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzymon,Feb 9 2007, 02:17 AM
I think I might have locked my wheels or over steering. Those two things I think I might have done, but definitely not giving it too much gas to cause the spin out. If I did I'd surely have hit the curb on the 2 lane street. Ok so with a rear wheel drive car you counter steer? I'm a bit confused. I'm still new to RWD cars even though I had one for 1.5 years which didn't have as much torque.
I changed my mind, you sound like an awesome driver. It was probably the car's fault.
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