"Skip shifting is brutal" ?!
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So what is the best way to approach a stop light....from a engine and tranny longevity stand-point? Some say just throw it into neutral and roll up using the brakes to stop, others think its best to be downshifting all the way to first while decelerating....and then some say down shift and let the clutch do some of the work stopping the car (I majorily disagree with that one).
I personally downshift while decelerating and rev-match.....
I personally downshift while decelerating and rev-match.....
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i never skip shifted before when upshifting and i feel that it is rather pointless
just shift to the next gear for a second or two then keep going up the desired gear, not too hard
personally i just coast in neutral or leave it in gear and clutch in and break
i downshift sometimes when i want to feel cool but i don't think it's really necessary and makes a lot of excessive noise
blah blah ppl talk about not being in control when in neutral but come on, it's not like i'm on the track - i'm on residential streets cruising to a dead stop and i'll take the slight risk should anything profound happen to me
just shift to the next gear for a second or two then keep going up the desired gear, not too hard
personally i just coast in neutral or leave it in gear and clutch in and break
i downshift sometimes when i want to feel cool but i don't think it's really necessary and makes a lot of excessive noise
blah blah ppl talk about not being in control when in neutral but come on, it's not like i'm on the track - i'm on residential streets cruising to a dead stop and i'll take the slight risk should anything profound happen to me
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From: Dry Branch
Originally Posted by dhayner,Oct 14 2006, 01:04 PM
xviper and woodwork covered this convincingly here.
I must say, I believe proper double-clutching would avoid this damage.
I must say, I believe proper double-clutching would avoid this damage.
Originally Posted by Billman250,Oct 5 2004, 05:45 PM
This is pretty disturbing....I've skipped gears all my life. With the S, I'd redline 123 to get my VTEC fill, the skip to 6th. I will agree that if this is not done with a deft touch and knowledge of what your driveline is doing, you'll do certain damage. I won't try to explain how I do it personally, for fear of giving people the idea that it's ok to do so. I can also shift from 123456, and 654321, without the clutch. Only because I've worked on cars all my life, and have a well earned feel for it. But the bottom line is don't try either. I'll continue to do so, and if it gives me trouble I'll tear it down myself and post a bunch of pics for you guys.
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As the holy XVIPER said back in the day.......from the top of 2nd to 6th is about a 5000RPM drop. You need to leave the tranny out of gear, until the RPMs fall accordingly, then you can put the car in 6th. Basically, you need to rev match on the way down (instead of blipping the throttle)....thus, causing no damage. Otherwise, yes, its not healthy.
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From: MD
If im full throttle 9K in 2nd, go to shift into 3rd and accidentally put the lever in 5th (real easy to do mid turn) the tranny grinds and I cant get the car into 6th without alot of effort.
dont skip shifts unless you give plenty of time in between shifts
dont skip shifts unless you give plenty of time in between shifts
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Originally Posted by Purple Haze,Oct 14 2006, 04:39 PM
I know I've accidentally skip-shifted at least three times in my ownership, 2nd to 5th; 3rd to 6th, etc. Now, I 'm depressed and frightened. What damage have I done?
you havnt really done any damage. just dont make a habit of it.
just dont skip shift the other way....
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Oct 14 2006, 07:16 PM
The idea that it's a flaw in the transmission design is incorrect in the extreme.
Name me one tranny on the market today that skip shifting will destroy like it does the S. Chevy even forces skip shifting in the Corvette.
Even in the "old days" skip shifting never damaged any tranny that I am aware of. Maybe some of the exotics but I never heard of it.
This is the first an only car I have ever heard of that skip shifting is a problem. My Miatas, both 5 speeds and 6 speeds, have been skip shifted for years with no issues. .