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Snap Oversteer

Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Strike,Dec 13 2004, 05:28 PM
So you stated something as fact that you have no first hand knowledge of? Nice....Well, let me correct you then. I tracked my car for two years on OEM S02's and they're fine, even at the "limit", a word used a little too loosely around here.
So you are suggesting that the S-02s have the same feedback that a set of Kumho MX's have? Or are you saying that you're such a good driver you don't need/want that extra feedback?

In my experience, and from what I've heard/read the S-02s really don't give the same feedback, mostly audible, that other tires of this level give. Less feedback would make it more difficult, for anyone who's not already a track god, to find the limit of traction and use the tires to thier fullest potential. That's not to say that inexperience and an unsensitive butt aren't to blame for oversteer, but it is to say that it's partly because of the tires.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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I sincerely doubt you'll find anyone with more track miles on S-02s than Strike, You're blabbering up the wrong tree
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by payneinthe,Dec 14 2004, 07:24 AM
I sincerely doubt you'll find anyone with more track miles on S-02s than Strike, You're blabbering up the wrong tree
I think Dante was saying that all performance tires are not the same when it comes to feedback. An experienced driver might notice some subtle feedback that less experienced drivers would miss.

This given, an inexperienced driver might be more prone to "losing it" with SO2s than with a more forgiving tire.

Obviously, it is not the tires "fault", but the inexperience of the driver. Perhaps the SO2s are the wrong tire for those new to RWD performance driving.

The solution is driving school and time behind the wheel.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante(suzuka),Dec 14 2004, 06:36 AM
So you are suggesting that the S-02s have the same feedback that a set of Kumho MX's have? Or are you saying that you're such a good driver you don't need/want that extra feedback?

In my experience, and from what I've heard/read the S-02s really don't give the same feedback, mostly audible, that other tires of this level give. Less feedback would make it more difficult, for anyone who's not already a track god, to find the limit of traction and use the tires to thier fullest potential. That's not to say that inexperience and an unsensitive butt aren't to blame for oversteer, but it is to say that it's partly because of the tires.
I haven't used the Kumho MX's so I can't make that comparison. However, I could have sworn this thread was about snap oversteer, which if I haven't already said so is a myth. And the argument that anyone other than a track god would have more trouble finding the limits on S02's than another tire doesn't hold water either - that person shouldn't be trying to find that limit on ANY tire. You have to learn how to properly approach the limit - if you don't have that capability you shouldn't be doing it. Also, I believe this poster was talking about street driving and NOONE should be approaching the limit in this car on the street anyways. All of that said, IMO the S02's are the best street tire for this car (pre 04) on the track so if you're using a lesser tire because you think it gives you better feedback then you're hurting your laptimes.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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I agree!
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