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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flatrex
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I haven't driven an ap2 but owned a 07 si so I know the dead throttle feeling I'm lucky though I purchased my ap1 with an ap2 trans so I guess I got the best of both worlds , it also has all the ap2 exterior goodies except tail lights and a CR lip for a measly 10 grand
Just have to say this, but the DBW in an AP2 is far better than the Civic Si. Night and day difference.
They both seem fairly similar with the way everyone descrides the dbw on the ap2's. Meaning the flat pedal feeling and rev hang.
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Wow, no way. You let off the gas in the Si, it bucks. Hit the gas in be Si, it bucks. Tap the pedal, a response is hit or miss. It's so slow and painful. The rev hang and poor transmission are the main reason I sold the car and couldn't wait to. They were just awful.

I'm sure most people wouldn't know an AP2 had DBW......,but I'm sure there are those who will swear they know the difference instantly if they weren't told. The throttle response has zero delay.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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I can't tell if you're trying to make me look like a fool in your post LOL
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flatrex
I can't tell if you're trying to make me look like a fool in your post LOL
99% off people cannot feel the difference. Consider yourself special....
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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My friend bought an 07 Si around the same time I got my 06 S2000. We've driven each others' cars multiple times and I can absolutely tell you the Civic DBW is garbage. Nothing like the S2000.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by flatrex
I can't tell if you're trying to make me look like a fool in your post LOL
Nope, just hate what Honda did to the Si. The two DBWs shouldn't ever be called similar! They ruined their last "sporty" car.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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I had an 08 fg2 and yes, the rev hang sucked.. Untill I got flashpro, then it was much improved.. Almost as good as a cable.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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Is the ap2 trans that much better? If so are they direct Bolton replacement?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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AP2 trannies are slightly less notchy when cold and less prone to grinding. But there's not a huge difference if your tranny is in good condition. I've had an 03, 08 and now an 00.

They're almost bolt-on, I think you need to update the output flange that connects to the driveshaft.
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