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USDM AP2 S2000 VS. JDM AP2 S2000

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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackbonin007,Dec 8 2006, 08:31 AM
go search at youtube for f20c versus f22c you will find the best motoring race not the ap1 vs ap2 vs mcr that best motoring an other one link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTtLYhFJT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTtLYhFJT4
Wow, the 2.2 pulls out of the corners significantly quicker.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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AP1 / AP2 is the chassis code.

Because in Japan / Europe the 2004 and newer models use the same chassis as the USDM 2004+ S2000s they are ALL considered AP2s.

AP1 / AP2 for the S2000 is not used to determine the engine in the car. (In other cars it may be possible to determine the engine by the chassis code).

AP1 = 99-03 S2000s worldwide
AP2 = 04-06+ S2000s worldwide.

N.America - 99-03 S2000s use the F20c 2.0L 9000rpm redline engine; 2004+ uses the F22c 2.2L 8000rpm redline engine

Japan - 99-05 S2000s use the F20c 2.0L 9000rpm redline engine; 06+ uses the F22c 2.2L 8000rpm redline engine

Europe - 99-06+ S2000s use the F20c 2.0L 9000rpm redline engine

Hope this clears things up. In the USA we typically assume that AP1 = 2.0L and AP2 = 2.2L ... but that only holds true in North America.

Cool video though. I'm surprised the 2.2L engine is rated at only 242 ps in Japan while the old 2.0L engine is rated at 250 ps. I thought Honda would have raised the compression level on the 2.2L in Japan to get the same 250 ps output, unless its because of the new SAE hp ratings that they're using over here and the 2.2L is still more or less making ~250ps like the 2.0L in Japan.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Chazmo,Dec 22 2006, 05:02 AM
^ tirerack is having an $80/tire closeout on the RE050 16" tires. That's a great price.
I can't find that deal!! Where is it shown on tirerack?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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sorry but 2004 and 05 models in europe are AP1, that is what their Code chasis said
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000_Europe,Dec 22 2006, 04:11 PM
sorry but 2004 and 05 models in europe are AP1, that is what their Code chasis said
Hmm, maybe I'm getting mixed up from what I read awhile back then. If thats the case, then the Chassis code which normally follows the chassis itself -- Doesn't for the S2000 and instead it follows the engine, meaning AP1 goes all the way up to 2005 for Japan, and should be AP2 now for the JDM 2006s, while it should still be AP1 in Europe?

Do the 2006 S2000s in Europe which have the 2.0L engine still say AP1?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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It should still be AP1 yes.

I don't have the link, but I specifically recall a website that disects the meaning of a Honda VIN, and the AP1/AP2 portion is labelled as describing the Chassis/Engine configuration, not just chassis.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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The Eurpoean model still has the 2.0L, , a friend of mine got one but I have not looked for the chasis code. I will ask him

I got the last Hyper Rev magazine where they used AP2 designation for the 2006 model.



I think the same situation happens wtih the NSX when they increased the displacement by 200 cc to 3.2L
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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very close times if you notice at the end on that vid. The 2nd place car "AP2" with the f20c timed a slightly faster lap time, from what I understand and how it was written.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tbonesteak,Nov 25 2006, 01:29 PM
There was definitely a clip of 2.2 AP2 vs JDM 2.0 AP2. the 2.2 won by a good margin.
That is just BS, they are very even and it comes down to the driver.
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