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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 03:56 PM
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I attribute it all to the older community simply moving on. 9 out of 10 people I know that left the forums left because they sold the car or are moving on with their lives and spend less time online (family, jobs, etc).

New owners aren't replacing these guys on the forums because the new owners are younger kids who don't use forums and use social media instead. I personally agree that social media is inferior to S2ki as far as technical information, DIY's, etc....but that's because i'm not a kid and I value that kind of stuff. Kid's on the other hand, prefer the easier-to-access Facebook and Instagram which allow you to post images immediately, tag friends, get more overall visibility and instant answers.

So you have the old generation moving on, new generation using social media instead = deteriorating S2ki community.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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I'm pretty new here and new to s2000 ownership in general considering I bought my first s2000 February 2015. Also, I was in elementary school during 03'-04' so I'm part of the younger generation you guys think so horribly about (jk, I didn't take any offense to this).

Anyways, I owned a RSX beforehand and I can definitely say this forum is way better and more tight knit than the clubrsx forum. I can find just about any and all information I need. I actually get responses or see others get responses easily when they have an issue or need advice. I actually want to/don't mind posting on this forum, and I don't think anyone would make me feel inferior just because I may not know something. People actually interact on this forum, like this thread for example. I'd also like to point out that not all of the younger generation migrate to social media. I'll choose this forum for information rather than social media anyday. Here I can find people who have actual experience with whatever I may be looking for. So that's just my two cents.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Spend more time at s2kca.com , that is an S2000 car club. s2kca.com is not just a forum where people get into spats over stupid arguments like "Which is better Ap1 vs. Ap2 ? " It is a much slower moving site compared to s2ki.com but it is more of a car club atmosphere. Their meets reflect that attitude too. I have to admit the members are a bit older, but they are true s2000 enthusiasts first, and the forums are just a way to spread the good news. You won't find any stretched tires or stanced s2000 owners over there, that can be a good thing.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:53 PM
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I remember a few years back I got S2000 owners wave at me occasionally when we cross each other's path...but this doesn't happen as often now.

I also see more and more younger people being able to get their hands on some of the less well maintained / desired S2000's. I don't think they care much about their cars. They seem to be okay with scraping the bumper and abusing the engines, mismatched body panels and £$*&ed up roof, foggy headlights etc.

And oh, replica parts. Many more companies have emerged over the years to replicate authentic parts. I think this plays a big role in destroying the community. People can't afford authentic JDM goodies and can only go the cheapest route. This is just going to get worse guys.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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Like others said...

1) S2000s became more affordable, which means more immature and irrational owners bought them. Result? Terrible mods, wrecks and owners chatting on Facebook, Instagram, etc. (not that those sites are bad... I use them).

The values seem to be rising, which is a great thing.

2) They haven't been in production for 7 years, so it's natural to see a decline in forum traffic.

I still think this is one of the best car forums and visit it frequently for both old and new posts.

I think once more mature owners start to rescue some of the poorly modded or wrecked cars and the car becomes even more highly sought, the forum will go through another positive cycle.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VilleS2K
Like others said...

1) S2000s became more affordable, which means more immature and irrational owners bought them. Result? Terrible mods, wrecks and owners chatting on Facebook, Instagram, etc. (not that those sites are bad... I use them).

The values seem to be rising, which is a great thing.

2) They haven't been in production for 7 years, so it's natural to see a decline in forum traffic.

I still think this is one of the best car forums and visit it frequently for both old and new posts.

I think once more mature owners start to rescue some of the poorly modded or wrecked cars and the car becomes even more highly sought, the forum will go through another positive cycle.

I completely agree with you.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chance S2K
Originally Posted by Magnificent_one' timestamp='1459507192' post='23924983
I think it's something every forum is experiencing it the last few years.
Honestly I'd really hate to see the S2000 community become the same as the rest of the Honda community.
My exact sentiments.

Originally Posted by Chris_Lum
I attribute it all to the older community simply moving on. 9 out of 10 people I know that left the forums left because they sold the car or are moving on with their lives and spend less time online (family, jobs, etc).

New owners aren't replacing these guys on the forums because the new owners are younger kids who don't use forums and use social media instead. I personally agree that social media is inferior to S2ki as far as technical information, DIY's, etc....but that's because i'm not a kid and I value that kind of stuff. Kid's on the other hand, prefer the easier-to-access Facebook and Instagram which allow you to post images immediately, tag friends, get more overall visibility and instant answers.

So you have the old generation moving on, new generation using social media instead = deteriorating S2ki community.
Chris, you know what's crazy...around '06 I remember vividly looking through FS threads and seeing many members/owners who explicitly stated that they would NOT sell their s2k to someone who they felt would be irresponsible with the ownership of their car after it sold! I mean try finding a FS thread like that now. There was a sense of responsibility even (AFTER) transferring ownership. That was really special for the community. It somewhat helped continue the status quo of ensuring good members within the community.

Originally Posted by samrahhh
I'm pretty new here and new to s2000 ownership in general considering I bought my first s2000 February 2015. Also, I was in elementary school during 03'-04' so I'm part of the younger generation you guys think so horribly about (jk, I didn't take any offense to this).

Anyways, I owned a RSX beforehand and I can definitely say this forum is way better and more tight knit than the clubrsx forum. I can find just about any and all information I need. I actually get responses or see others get responses easily when they have an issue or need advice. I actually want to/don't mind posting on this forum, and I don't think anyone would make me feel inferior just because I may not know something. People actually interact on this forum, like this thread for example. I'd also like to point out that not all of the younger generation migrate to social media. I'll choose this forum for information rather than social media anyday. Here I can find people who have actual experience with whatever I may be looking for. So that's just my two cents.
I'm glad members from the younger generation are offering their perspective on this. Thanks for your input guys. I feel like we should have some dialogue between the old and new school. For the younger gen, I don't want you to get the impression that us older members/folk intrinsically detest you guys because of our stylistic differences etc. It's actually very hard to explain, but...you will understand when you get older and actually have your life/memories to reference and compare back to when you see the generation or two (after) yours start to evolve. I'm currently in my 30's, and I know for the most part, the generation before mine look at my generation in disgust. So don't take it personal haha!

Originally Posted by zeroptzero
Spend more time at s2kca.com , that is an S2000 car club. s2kca.com is not just a forum where people get into spats over stupid arguments like "Which is better Ap1 vs. Ap2 ? " It is a much slower moving site compared to s2ki.com but it is more of a car club atmosphere. Their meets reflect that attitude too. I have to admit the members are a bit older, but they are true s2000 enthusiasts first, and the forums are just a way to spread the good news. You won't find any stretched tires or stanced s2000 owners over there, that can be a good thing.
Good advice. Thanks Zero.

Originally Posted by s2k_drive
This occurs on every forum once vehicles become a lot more affordable. It simply attracts a younger, different crowd. Since the cars they buy are cheaper as a whole, they don't feel the need to spend $$ on quality parts; especially since their cars may cost a few thousand dollars more than the part(s) itself. While it is different, there are also a lot of positive things/people you can focus on who still maintain that "old school" passion.
So "quality parts" is relative. What one person view as quality can mean a completely different thing for another. I think you probably want to say "functional parts". Not everyone needs to spend a pretty coin on ASM parts and then wait 6 months for them to arrive lol. However, with a car built to damn near perfection such as the s2k, it is somewhat a disservice to install (non-functional) parts that actually hinders the performance of the vehicle.

Remember "cheaper" doesn't necessarily mean trash. One may not be able to afford Ohlins or Motons coilovers, but acquiring a set of Bilstein Pss9's or KW V3's wouldn't be considered by many on here a non-functional purchase.

Originally Posted by kevinS2OOO
I remember a few years back I got S2000 owners wave at me occasionally when we cross each other's path...but this doesn't happen as often now.
This is very true from my experience as well. No more waves on the road. This use to be a long-standing tradition amongst our community, once I noticed people stopped doing that, I knew things were changing for sure.
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.60trim
Originally Posted by Chance S2K' timestamp='1459551635' post='23925731
[quote name='Magnificent_one' timestamp='1459507192' post='23924983']
I think it's something every forum is experiencing it the last few years.
Honestly I'd really hate to see the S2000 community become the same as the rest of the Honda community.
My exact sentiments.

Originally Posted by Chris_Lum
I attribute it all to the older community simply moving on. 9 out of 10 people I know that left the forums left because they sold the car or are moving on with their lives and spend less time online (family, jobs, etc).

New owners aren't replacing these guys on the forums because the new owners are younger kids who don't use forums and use social media instead. I personally agree that social media is inferior to S2ki as far as technical information, DIY's, etc....but that's because i'm not a kid and I value that kind of stuff. Kid's on the other hand, prefer the easier-to-access Facebook and Instagram which allow you to post images immediately, tag friends, get more overall visibility and instant answers.

So you have the old generation moving on, new generation using social media instead = deteriorating S2ki community.
Chris, you know what's crazy...around '06 I remember vividly looking through FS threads and seeing many members/owners who explicitly stated that they would NOT sell their s2k to someone who they felt would be irresponsible with the ownership of their car after it sold! I mean try finding a FS thread like that now. There was a sense of responsibility even (AFTER) transferring ownership. That was really special for the community. It somewhat helped continue the status quo of ensuring good members within the community.

Originally Posted by samrahhh
I'm pretty new here and new to s2000 ownership in general considering I bought my first s2000 February 2015. Also, I was in elementary school during 03'-04' so I'm part of the younger generation you guys think so horribly about (jk, I didn't take any offense to this).

Anyways, I owned a RSX beforehand and I can definitely say this forum is way better and more tight knit than the clubrsx forum. I can find just about any and all information I need. I actually get responses or see others get responses easily when they have an issue or need advice. I actually want to/don't mind posting on this forum, and I don't think anyone would make me feel inferior just because I may not know something. People actually interact on this forum, like this thread for example. I'd also like to point out that not all of the younger generation migrate to social media. I'll choose this forum for information rather than social media anyday. Here I can find people who have actual experience with whatever I may be looking for. So that's just my two cents.
I'm glad members from the younger generation are offering their perspective on this. Thanks for your input guys. I feel like we should have some dialogue between the old and new school. For the younger gen, I don't want you to get the impression that us older members/folk intrinsically detest you guys because of our stylistic differences etc. It's actually very hard to explain, but...you will understand when you get older and actually have your life/memories to reference and compare back to when you see the generation or two (after) yours start to evolve. I'm currently in my 30's, and I know for the most part, the generation before mine look at my generation in disgust. So don't take it personal haha!

Originally Posted by zeroptzero
Spend more time at s2kca.com , that is an S2000 car club. s2kca.com is not just a forum where people get into spats over stupid arguments like "Which is better Ap1 vs. Ap2 ? " It is a much slower moving site compared to s2ki.com but it is more of a car club atmosphere. Their meets reflect that attitude too. I have to admit the members are a bit older, but they are true s2000 enthusiasts first, and the forums are just a way to spread the good news. You won't find any stretched tires or stanced s2000 owners over there, that can be a good thing.
Good advice. Thanks Zero.

Originally Posted by s2k_drive
This occurs on every forum once vehicles become a lot more affordable. It simply attracts a younger, different crowd. Since the cars they buy are cheaper as a whole, they don't feel the need to spend $$ on quality parts; especially since their cars may cost a few thousand dollars more than the part(s) itself. While it is different, there are also a lot of positive things/people you can focus on who still maintain that "old school" passion.
So "quality parts" is relative. What one person view as quality can mean a completely different thing for another. I think you probably want to say "functional parts". Not everyone needs to spend a pretty coin on ASM parts and then wait 6 months for them to arrive lol. However, with a car built to damn near perfection such as the s2k, it is somewhat a disservice to install (non-functional) parts that actually hinders the performance of the vehicle.

Remember "cheaper" doesn't necessarily mean trash. One may not be able to afford Ohlins or Motons coilovers, but acquiring a set of Bilstein Pss9's or KW V3's wouldn't be considered by many on here a non-functional purchase.

Originally Posted by kevinS2OOO
I remember a few years back I got S2000 owners wave at me occasionally when we cross each other's path...but this doesn't happen as often now.
This is very true from my experience as well. No more waves on the road. This use to be a long-standing tradition amongst our community, once I noticed people stopped doing that, I knew things were changing for sure.
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From my experience younger S2000 owners don't wave. I wave at all S2000 owners, the younger ones don't know what I am doing and almost never wave back, they grew up texting and have no idea what a wave means.
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Our local community still has its strong bonds for the most part.
Still see the occasional wave or headlight flash, which is nice after not seeing it for a few years.

But I have definitely noticed the downward slope it's taken since joining 11 years ago...hence why people call me an asshole on the FB pages because I let a dipshit know they're being a dipshit

Sucks, but I guess that's what happens when the resale value drops, there's new fads and trends internet attention whores need to follow to feel appreciated with e-likes, and this new generation in general wants everything now instead of over time and have zero care for whether they're buying a cheap knockoff or not. The strong desire for replica parts with these new owners bugs me, sorry not sorry. I'd rather appreciate something than be a cheapskate trying to fake the funk just to impress people over the web.

Originally Posted by zeroptzero
From my experience younger S2000 owners don't wave. they grew up texting and have no idea what a wave means.
The Civic community doesn't wave to each other, that's why
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Sounds like a lot of grumpy old men complaining about young people and change in here!
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