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Will VSA save me from spin outs?

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Default Will VSA save me from spin outs?

Have any of you guys had much experience with VSA.

I totalled first s2000 (MY05) last year - accelerated too hard and car span into a tree - my fault for being too enthusiastic. (just a straight line - no corners)

My replacement s2000 has VSA, I have learnt my lesson, never to go above 5000 rpm in the wet - however would VSA have prevented that mishap? I presume it would as the throttle should theoretically ease off before wheels begin to loose grip.

I am planning a track day once I have 'broken-the-car-in' to judge what the VSA can do and how much I can rely on it.

Any thoughts (about the VSA - not me being a tit!) ?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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VSA has saved me a couple times but I've still felt as if the rear was giving out. I dunno I don't really want to push the limit passed that unless I'm on a track
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Thers no answer to your question except maybe. If you have VSA, whos to say that it may have saved you or that your speed could never have been comensated for by the addition of VSA?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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It is Vehicle Stability ASSIST. Meaning that as long as you don't drive like a complete moron it will assist you in keeping your car on the road, If you go into a wet 25mph corner at 100 mph no assistance in the world (Except perhaps DIVINE assistance) is going to keep you from crashing. The limits of Newtonian Physics still apply. Always.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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I wasn't actually going all that fast - was in first hit about 6000 revs and then a spin out - on a straight line not a corner insight. Not even fast enough to set off airbags! (30mph at most).

was suprised how easily back end lost grip. I agree it is there to assist and it can't stop accidents when major driver errors occur - but was hoping that these straight line spins would be near impossible with VSA - at least that's what the dealer told me!
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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The tires are really critical in these kind of instances, I don't know what they are delivering with in the UK, but here it's Bridgestone RE050 Max Performance summer only rubber.

If you're driving in cooler weather (un-Summer if you will) you may want to consider all-seasons or a wetter weather tire, The RE050's are better in the wet than the old S02's but still aren't great rain tires, especially in cooler temps.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Of course it will. Its impossible to wreck with vsa, i drive around blind folded with the pedal to the metal all the time never wrecked yet.
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your left and right foot will save you better
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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roflmao at above....


i don't think vsa is that critical if you can drive decent enough. its not going to save your life flat out...it certain situations it works wonders though..such as the moose test...thats probably the most common situation where vsa is gonna save your life on any car but the s2k...on the s2k the situation is when newbs take the car around turns with the pedal mashed to the floor, vtec kicks in, and the back tires break loose... thats when it should come in pretty handy forget vsa though..the most imporant thing is still the only thing on your car that touches the ground...YOUR TIRES@%$


first thing i did when i bought my car on dec 12th was get snow tires put on it.. (lesson learned...don't be a convertable sports car in the winter..summer goes from being just around the block to years away it seems..)

seems weird to me that you totally lost control of the car that fast...hey shit happens don't get me wrong...i've never experienced the summer tires in the rain yet though and the only knowledge i'm going off is experience with my winter tires. i have the dunlop winter sport m3's in the back and 3d's in the front. seriously these tires are nutz when it comes to anything wet/snowy. ice is ice is ice and your not going nowhere on ice no matter what but anything else its like butter ...this car is literally better than my last car with all seasons.. go go s2k in the winter!!!!!!
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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I'm still scratching my head about all this talk of the S2000 snap spinning. I had an AP1 with UK alignment on 2/3 worn stock tires. One rainy Sunday morning I headed out to a large parking lot to investigate. After 30 minutes of trying, I decided that you would have to do everything they teach you NOT to do in performance driving school or totally ignore what the car was telegraphing to you to get yourself in that position. I had to exercise a total disregard for throttle control and conscientiously stop myself from counter-steering to make the end come around.. and I tried!

I think VSA will help if you ever have a lapse in control but agree that your skills are your best bet.
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