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Will VSA save me from spin outs?

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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Two words: Throttle Modulation.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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In terms of corner exits with heavy power, where power-oversteer could be an issue, yes VSA will do its job, and unless you get way out of hand, it is actually surprisingly subtle (I've had the dash light be my only indication that it was working in certain cases). It is a much more advanced system than Honda's TCS, which waits until massive wheelspin and then pounds the brake rotors hard. VSA seems much more progressive. You can still rotate the car a bit in tight corners, but you're unlikely to ever need opposite lock. Usually just straightening the wheel way more than normal is enough to help VSA "straighten things out" (pun intended).

I've never engaged VSA by entering a corner too hot. The car gets slippery-feeling and starts making threatening twitches before VSA needs to step in, and that's plenty of warning for me to carefully scrub speed with trailing throttle without needing VSA to help.

To be brutally honest to the OP, if you are at 6000 RPM in first gear IN THE RAIN, you're not making safe judgments! I fear that VSA will only serve as a false sense of security for someone like that. So take your accident as a huge wake-up call about your attitude toward public roads, and leave VSA on but don't make a point of finding out when it comes on.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cullywoo,Mar 19 2007, 01:26 PM
Have any of you guys had much experience with VSA.

I totalled first s2000 (MY05) last year - accelerated too hard and car span into a tree - my fault for being too enthusiastic. (just a straight line - no corners)

My replacement s2000 has VSA, I have learnt my lesson, never to go above 5000 rpm in the wet - however would VSA have prevented that mishap? I presume it would as the throttle should theoretically ease off before wheels begin to loose grip.

I am planning a track day once I have 'broken-the-car-in' to judge what the VSA can do and how much I can rely on it.

Any thoughts (about the VSA - not me being a tit!) ?
If you're going to rely on VSA, you shouldn't be driving an S.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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"The laws of physics cannot be repealed, even with DSC. The results of driving irresponsibly rest with the driver. We therefore urge you to avoid using the additional safety margin of the system as an excuse for taking risks."

As taken from the M3 owners manual in the section about there dynamic stability control. If you have already been through one and are not sure how to keep it from happening again my guess is that the S2000 may just be the wrong car for you.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Hmm ok i have tryed to drive like a moron in the car before i have treyd to spin out and to smoke the tires just to see if i could to test the CR. well the VSA kicked in but i dont think it was all that these tires on the CR are just to dam sticky to burn out
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Feel free to ignore all the stupid comments by the "My right foot is my VSA" people...

Yes, VSA cannot defy the laws of physics, but it comes close, definitely closer than an ignorant's right foot...

VSA is excellent. It is very, very difficult to spin the car out with the VSA on.

I suggest that you test the limits of the car when its raining in a large empty parking lot. You'll see what it can do.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hicabi,Jul 1 2009, 07:00 PM
Feel free to ignore all the stupid comments by the "My right foot is my VSA" people...

Yes, VSA cannot defy the laws of physics, but it comes close, definitely closer than an ignorant's right foot...

VSA is excellent. It is very, very difficult to spin the car out with the VSA on.

I suggest that you test the limits of the car when its raining in a large empty parking lot. You'll see what it can do.
I disagree. ANY car can be spun easily with VSA on if the driver does not know what they are doing.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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VSA will keep a small mistake from becoming a big mistake, a big mistake will still be a big mistake. Do not think you can drive way to fast for conditions and VSA will save you, it may or may not. If it snows where you live in the winter find a large emty parking lot practice driving with the VSA off. Go do some autocrosses and driving schools. Get to know when the car wants to spin (it will tell you if you are listening) and how to keep it from spining. The S or any car will not spin unless forced to by the driver they want to go straight. Do not force the car to do something it cannot do.

VSA is good but it is no replacement for good judgement and driving abilty.

Driving ability comes from practice, practice, practice in a safe enviroment. Do not push the limits on the streets. (I will try to follow my own advice)
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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[QUOTE=roadie114,Jul 2 2009, 01:21 PM]I disagree.
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