Which Year S2K is the best and why?
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From: SoCal
Originally Posted by ZDan' timestamp='1373571221' post='22660789
14.1 @ 99 for the '03, 14.0 @ 100 for the '04, well within margin of repeatability.
here is why AP2 is better than AP1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkcC2uzcQgk
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From: Austin
The point of the video was to show the difference in the car itself, not 2.0 vs 2.2.
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From: Queen City, NC
Originally Posted by Saki GT' timestamp='1374154938' post='22673246
On real roads, AP2 is clearly superior.
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From: phila
Originally Posted by Car Analogy' timestamp='1374175288' post='22674011
AP1 redline = 8900
AP2 redline = 8200
AP2 redline = 8200
AP1 redline = 8900
AP1 fuel cutoff = 9200
AP2 redline = 8000
AP2 fuel cutoff = 8200
Watch the tachometer in that Nurburgring video and take note of how long he's above 8,000 rpm. After owning an AP1 for 6 years and switching to an 08 I just couldn't forget that ride up to 9,200, had to go back to an AP1.
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From: Indiana
Again, these threads are silly, all S2000s are great cars, and I know it's just going to add fuel to the fire, but the AP1 owners are doing enough of that above. So I can't help but say this again.
An 06+ with HFC/testpipe and Flashpro custom tune (especially if done by Gernby by the way--awesome tuner) is a completely different animal from any other S2000 (be it AP1 or AP2). You can't spend the same $900 on a pre-06 car and be anywhere near as quick.
For the AP1 die-hards with blinders on: keep your "rawness" and have fun. I'll just be over here driving a car with 35% more torque in the midrange and at least 10% more up top. I'm cool with trading the last 500 rpms of revs for double the powerband.
An 06+ with HFC/testpipe and Flashpro custom tune (especially if done by Gernby by the way--awesome tuner) is a completely different animal from any other S2000 (be it AP1 or AP2). You can't spend the same $900 on a pre-06 car and be anywhere near as quick.
For the AP1 die-hards with blinders on: keep your "rawness" and have fun. I'll just be over here driving a car with 35% more torque in the midrange and at least 10% more up top. I'm cool with trading the last 500 rpms of revs for double the powerband.
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From: Pawtucket, RI
Custom tune vs custom tune, no way the 2.2 would have a 35% torque advantage anywhere. +10%, that's it. Up top, with the same intake/exhaust, +5%.
I don't have blinders on, btw, I'd gladly drop a 2.2 into my AP1, given a minimum 8600rpm rev limit.
I don't have blinders on, btw, I'd gladly drop a 2.2 into my AP1, given a minimum 8600rpm rev limit.
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From: The courtroom
What's up with everyone on here having an inferiority complex???
The AP2 is not better than the AP1 and the AP1 isn't better than the AP2! We might as well argue that brunettes are hotter than blondes. Do we really need to prove that we are better than someone else because our car is 10% different? At this point people can pick and choose which generation they want. Get over it.
The AP2 is not better than the AP1 and the AP1 isn't better than the AP2! We might as well argue that brunettes are hotter than blondes. Do we really need to prove that we are better than someone else because our car is 10% different? At this point people can pick and choose which generation they want. Get over it.
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From: Tucson
This. IMO the best year is the newest/lowest mileage/cleanest example you can get within your budget. I went from a SC AP1 to N/A AP2 and don't regret it, not all that much different in driving dynamics. IMO 06+ Flashpro is a huge advantage, especially if boost is in your future.
