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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy-buffett
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TPMS = lame? How so?
Because as owners, the cost-to-benefit isn't there if you were raised (as I was) to pay attention to what your car is doing and to notice problems before they become catastrophic. Also, have you owned a TPMS car and done tire changes / wheel swaps, or had a TPMS sensor go bad? Talk to the guys at your local tire shop about their opinion of TPMS if you need more info.

http://jalopnik.com/5653882/why-it-s...usiast-in-2010

For those people who may not have seen a TPMS, it's important to describe. From the outside of the mounted wheel and tire, it looks just like a normal valve stem. But on the inside of the wheel is the sensor, attached to the valve stem. It sends a radio signal to your vehicle that the car can be calibrated to read. The sensors are proprietary, as there were no standards set by the law, so they vary by make or even model.

A traditional valve stem costs $1 or less. $100 per corner is a fair estimate for a TPMS. If you switch wheels and tires on a newer vehicle, you have three choices really. The first is to not put sensors on the new wheels and tires. This results in beeping on every vehicle start and a warning light constantly lit on the dash (that mind you looks absolutely nothing like anything related to a tire) that can not legally be disabled. It also opens the door to concerns about safety inspections, resale and liability. The second choice is to move the sensors from your original wheels and tires, but then you're paying for extra dismounts, and what of your original wheels and tires? You can either leave them separated and dismounted, or reassemble them with traditional valve stems. The third option is to pony up for a second set of sensors, which is hundreds of dollars of extra cost in the mix. Also adding to the pain, many shops will not work on wheels and tires with the sensors in them, and some that do charge a large premium for mounting and dismounting, or moving sensors from rim to rim.
It's really not that big of a deal.
If a shop turns down the job due to the TPMS then they are turning down a lot of business these days. Also, how often do you need to replace the sensors? I doubt very often and if you do it would be one at a time not all four. Finally, if you can afford the car you can afford the sensors. If you cannot afford to replace the TPMS sensors you probably are struggling to own the S2000.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I had them on my genesis coupe. The light came on two times only. I pulled over twice to find 4 Inflated tires both times. They didnt work out too well for me.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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03 or 01 ap1 gotta love that 9k redline and ap1 geared tranny with slight oversteer
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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TPMS sensors systems are more trouble then they are worth.

Now some Audis and BMWs use ABS systems to check for a deflating tire, without the need to install individual sensors in each of the wheels.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 06:12 AM
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I started out with a Sebring Silver 02 and it was a great car very fun and had wished I didn't sell..Then bought an 06 Suzuka Blue and wasn't to happy as I didn't care for the drive by wire and the car just seemed watered down.So I ended up selling and bought a 91 NSX and love the car but missed my 02 S2000..So ended up buying a 2000 Silverstone and love it so my vote is for AP1
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Seven11
TPMS sensors systems are more trouble then they are worth.

Now some Audis and BMWs use ABS systems to check for a deflating tire, without the need to install individual sensors in each of the wheels.
GM was doing this in 1998. Pretty sure the regs require "direct" TPMS, which requires a pressure sensor in the wheel/tire, so the "indirect" method might disappear or only be used as a backup.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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I've owned both an AP1 03 120K miles and now currently own an AP2 06 20K miles which I've only had for a month. To be honest I loved my AP1..maybe because it was my for S, anyway the think had done 120K and still was going strong. Needed to change the TCT but that was it..and ya know what..it actually seemed faster than my AP2..duno if it is because it was well run in and my that fact my AP2 is very low mileage!? However my AP2 is so much more refined in so many ways! From the new suspension geometry to something as small and what you would think as so insignificant...a clock! Lol yep. Not to mention the fact they were both GT's but my AP2 actually came with its hard top (RARE!) completely finishes off the and again refines it some much..and makes it a quieter ride.
Every S2000 has a different 0-60 time depending in year. 06 is the quickest apparently aswell.
End of the day it all comes down to budget!!

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NDAZONE
Finally, if you can afford the car you can afford the sensors. If you cannot afford to replace the TPMS sensors you probably are struggling to own the S2000.
Choosing to avoid extra costs/hassles caused by a federal regulation for '08+ cars does not mean struggling to afford the car in the first place. Give me a break.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Look on youtube for "Best motoring International" - Japanese guys who are AMAZING drivers and drive a lot of cars, including the S2000 on track. They do a test - an AP1 Vs AP2, and the AP2 laps the track faster. Period.

It also looks more modern and in my eyes looks better.


Here in the UK we got the AP2 with the AP1 engine though - best of both worlds
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 03:39 AM
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Best of both worlds is AP2 engine in AP1 (keeping 9k redline)
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