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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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I was on the stoptech website just reading the information they have on there and I saw that they had a special section where they talked about bleeding brakes with ABS systems. My question is what ABS system do we have? Just for reference, I am referring to this:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bleeding_abs.shtml


Oh and on a different note, just thought id ask in here since i already have a brake related question... Here is the brake bed-in procedure according to stoptech:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml

They say to do 2 or 3 sets of 10 "braking events" from 60 mph down to 10 mph using "moderate to high deceleration." My question is, how on earth would I be able to do that safely on public roads? Can't do that on a highway cuz of traffic, and I dont know of any stretches of straight road that long with little or no traffic where i could just go back and forth...

I'd appreciate any input and advice...
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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you just need to get the brakes hot to boil whatever the hell is in them out..... i do brake bedding on the street near the track when I need to.... i go from 60-70mph down to 10mph, then right back up.... just make sure no one is around you.

to bleed my brakes I just suck the old shit out and then bleed any corner.... i have never noticed any difference by starting at a particular corner.... i dump in the new stuff and let the old stuff get forced out... no clue what kind of system it is, but it works pretty well.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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you're s'pose to bleed the brake that's furtherst away from the brake fluid reservoir first.. and the one closest to the resevoir last. this is what i was 'taught' by some old skewl dudes so... i believe the same instructions are usually also in the haynes (not sure about helms) manuals
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Thanks for the posts

however I'm not really interested in the order in which to bleed the brake system. I'm more interested to know about what ABS system we have. I am referring to the part where they say that certain ABS systems have their own "hidden" parts where they retain old brake fluid. The only way this fluid is gotten rid of is to either have the ABS system kick in or have that special tool that dealerships have.

And secondly, I'm curious bout the bed in procedure for the rotors and pads they talk about.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ToeKneeC,Sep 9 2005, 01:26 PM
you're s'pose to bleed the brake that's furtherst away from the brake fluid reservoir first.. and the one closest to the resevoir last. this is what i was 'taught' by some old skewl dudes so... i believe the same instructions are usually also in the haynes (not sure about helms) manuals
Yes, well when you leave the old skewl dudes and go home to read your Helms manual, you will see that it calls for a specific pattern: LF, RF, RR, LR. Or you could have read the FAQs here on this website and discovered the same thing.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BNavZ,Sep 9 2005, 02:01 PM
I am referring to the part where they say that certain ABS systems have their own "hidden" parts where they retain old brake fluid. The only way this fluid is gotten rid of is to either have the ABS system kick in or have that special tool that dealerships have.
So what if a little bit of the old fluid is diluted among the new fluid?

BTW, the Helms manual does not call for any special process or tools relating to flushing the ABS system. And it does have a lot of detail about how the ABS system works. So I guess the answer to your question is "RTFM".
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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All the S had ABS,from day 1.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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The ABS system in all S2k's doesn't use a seperate high pressure brake fluid/gas accumulator. There are no special tools or procedures for changing "ABS" fluid. When you bleed the brakes, you're changing the fluid used by the ABS.

Older Honda ABS systems did use High pressure brake fluid that was seperate from the standard brakes. These systems where phased out in 98 on most Honda products.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k,Sep 10 2005, 02:21 AM
The ABS system in all S2k's doesn't use a seperate high pressure brake fluid/gas accumulator. There are no special tools or procedures for changing "ABS" fluid. When you bled the brakes, you're changing the fluid used by the ABS.

Older Honda ABS systems did use High pressure brake fluid that was seperate from the standard brakes. These systems where phased out in 98 on most Honda products.
Thats what I was looking for...

Thanks
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