S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

Add me to the rear-diff blown-up club

Thread Tools
 
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:33 AM
  #31  
mstw's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 0
Default

Just got off the phone with the dealership...

The service record showed that it was filled with the Honda Dual Pump Fluid, which is not the right one. But since it had been almost 6 months and 7,000 miles, again, so far so good, I thought maybe the service folks have no clue whats going on, so I hung up and called parts.

"The Dual Pump comes in gallon bottles, VTM4 comes in quarts, they are for the CRV and the Element, S2000's gear oil only comes in 55-gallon drums" according to the parts guy. He then said that the techs know not to mix up CRV's gear oil for Element, and vice versa, so it is very unlikely that the tech would accept either the Dual Pump or the VTM4 when he asks for S2000's gear oil, nor would the parts guy hand those out for a S2000.

The parts guy I talked to was very helpful, and 6 months / 7,000 miles is pretty much a proven evidence itself, but I will def be tuning in for any weird noises.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:20 AM
  #32  
xviper's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 37,305
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by mstw,Mar 25 2005, 12:33 PM
S2000's gear oil only comes in 55-gallon drums" according to the parts guy.
I seriously doubt the validity of this statement. Since the S2000's diff fluid is unique from all other Honda car products (not counting Acura here) and since Honda has already admitted that their car division has NO "in-house" diff fluid for our cars (at least Honda Canada), they sure wouldn't keep it in 55 gal. drums.

Can they tell you the specs on this fluid they keep in 55 gal. drums? Viscosity? Synthetic or non? GL rating?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:35 AM
  #33  
amartin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,865
Likes: 0
From: Austin
Default

Well, just got back from the dealer-- went with a friend of mine that used to work there.

The rear diff fractured (didn't entirely grenade). They are ordering parts Monday to repair/replace-- UNDER WARRANTY (/cheer).

They suggested that I might want to purchase some "thing" off the web that inserts into the rear diff that strengthens it... They are supposed to get me the url-- anyone have any clue what they are talking about? Its supposed to be some metal insert that helps deal with the "torque".

-- Aaron
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:07 PM
  #34  
mstw's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by xviper,Mar 25 2005, 04:20 PM
Can they tell you the specs on this fluid they keep in 55 gal. drums? Viscosity? Synthetic or non? GL rating?
Called the parts guy again, its a GL5 90W gear oil. And just out of curiosity, I called the dealership where I purchased my car, the parts guy was not as knowledgable and had to put me on hold to check - as it turned out, they also use a gear oil that comes in 55 gallon drum but a GL4 90W. Both non-synthetic.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:19 PM
  #35  
xviper's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 37,305
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by amartin,Mar 25 2005, 01:35 PM
They suggested that I might want to purchase some "thing" off the web that inserts into the rear diff that strengthens it... They are supposed to get me the url-- anyone have any clue what they are talking about? Its supposed to be some metal insert that helps deal with the "torque".

-- Aaron
This is that "thing":
http://marketplace.s2ki.com/s2ki/product.p...8&cat=13&page=1

Hardtopguy also sells it.

(I take it you can't find out or won't find out what fluid was in there nor do you care? Oh well, we're only trying to help. If they put the wrong fluid in there again, no re-inforcement parts will help.)
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:21 PM
  #36  
xviper's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 37,305
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by mstw,Mar 25 2005, 02:07 PM
Called the parts guy again, its a GL5 90W gear oil.
This is truly amazing. If he's telling the truth and is accurate about his information, then your dealer got this fluid "out of house". If this is what they used, then you are good to go.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:22 PM
  #37  
tesseract's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,004
Likes: 0
From: Dupont Circle, Wash. DC
Default

90w is right, but it should be GL5 i believe.

And to the guys asking about how to get your diff serviced...i actually tried taking a bottle of LE607 to the dealer, and the service writer flat out refused to put it in. He said it was too stiff. I pointed him to the page in our manuals which states that it is the correct weight, and still he would not put anything heavier than the 75-90w that he had.

A few months later I got to do the change myself at another owners' place. While it isn't the easiest fluid to move, it was definitely more fun and less costly than having it done at the shop. Plus, I got the added bonus of talking with other owners and getting some great homemade chili!
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 01:04 PM
  #38  
3ngin33r1's Avatar
Registered User
Gold Member (Premium)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,231
Likes: 2
From: Kingston, WA
Default

At least they covered it.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 01:21 PM
  #39  
JerseyGirl's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,358
Likes: 1
From: It's a secret!
Default

Originally Posted by ZSAK,Mar 25 2005, 02:01 PM
one of the best ways to avoid this problem is to do the diff change yourself. Believe me if I can do it, anyone can. Its actually a bit easier than oil change if you ask me.
100%!
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:46 PM
  #40  
vAnt's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,328
Likes: 0
From: WA?
Default

Good thing I go to S2ki.com ... Otherwise I would of taken it to the dealer

(Adds notes... "If you hear a whirring sound...")
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:24 PM.