Air trapped/clogged heater matrix? (Solved)
#21
I hope nobody get me wrong, i dont want to offend anybody, but i read the instructions from Billman several times and still dont understand why and how it works.
- Why does it make a difference to shut the engine off?
- Why does the bleeder port at the firewall dont work? What is the reason for this?
Squeezing the radiator hose to build up pressure make perfect sense before you open the Bleeder, to avoid that air get into the system. Same as bleeding the brakes. Allways have pressure in the system before you open the Bleeder.
But, air wich is trapped inside the heater core - the highest point of the System - will find its way DOWN in the LIQUID through the Roller-Coaster of tubes and hoses of the cooling system to the Bleeder at the cylinder head when i stop the engine and squeeze the hose to build up pressure? There is something wich i am missing, or wich i simply dont understand or wich is missing from the instructions. Sorry!
I opend the bleeder at the cylinder head for a short time after i used the LHT method for bleeding, with pressure in the system, all i get was a constant stream of coolant, no air bubbles. And 3 Tankfills after the bleeding, the coolant level in the reservoir is still exactly the same. To me, it looks like all air is out of the system. Maybe i am wrong?
I followed Franzos hint and did annother meassurment. Car was hot, idling. I pointed the laser of the thermometer inside the air channel, through the ventilation grill. After about one minute, i read 96.4 °C / 205.52 °F. Hot enough?
I used a fresh batterey in the Theremomter to avoid missreadings.
- Why does it make a difference to shut the engine off?
- Why does the bleeder port at the firewall dont work? What is the reason for this?
Squeezing the radiator hose to build up pressure make perfect sense before you open the Bleeder, to avoid that air get into the system. Same as bleeding the brakes. Allways have pressure in the system before you open the Bleeder.
But, air wich is trapped inside the heater core - the highest point of the System - will find its way DOWN in the LIQUID through the Roller-Coaster of tubes and hoses of the cooling system to the Bleeder at the cylinder head when i stop the engine and squeeze the hose to build up pressure? There is something wich i am missing, or wich i simply dont understand or wich is missing from the instructions. Sorry!
I opend the bleeder at the cylinder head for a short time after i used the LHT method for bleeding, with pressure in the system, all i get was a constant stream of coolant, no air bubbles. And 3 Tankfills after the bleeding, the coolant level in the reservoir is still exactly the same. To me, it looks like all air is out of the system. Maybe i am wrong?
I followed Franzos hint and did annother meassurment. Car was hot, idling. I pointed the laser of the thermometer inside the air channel, through the ventilation grill. After about one minute, i read 96.4 °C / 205.52 °F. Hot enough?
I used a fresh batterey in the Theremomter to avoid missreadings.
#22
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There are two factors involved, agitation/frequency vibration, and circulation.
Without those, air is allowed to settle to the highest point (engine bleeder). It is that simple.
When the engine is running, the bleeder is instantly holding back water pressure, not air.
Without those, air is allowed to settle to the highest point (engine bleeder). It is that simple.
When the engine is running, the bleeder is instantly holding back water pressure, not air.
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#23
So to clarify, the water pump creating water pressure and circulation is what stops the bleeder on the head from being able to purge air. If you remove the circulation/pressure induced by the pump with the nose lifted and the hose squeezed, means the air can move to the highest point in the system ie the head bleed bolt.
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So to clarify, the water pump creating water pressure and circulation is what stops the bleeder on the head from being able to purge air. If you remove the circulation/pressure induced by the pump with the nose lifted and the hose squeezed, means the air can move to the highest point in the system ie the head bleed bolt.
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