simons

To each their own. Excelent traction in dry sunny weather. And crisp corner handling. At 10+C the RE002 get sloppy at cornering and sidewall roll effects in understeer at front tires.

simons

Hello everybody. Small update. Im at the point of buying and the price for Advan AD08R went up! (Shit!). Alternatively I can order the Potenza S02 (N3 Porshe approved) for less per tire. Now im hesitating which to order because I already have set of S02 n3 rears laying around (so can make a set by buying fronts only) and for AD08R I would have to buy front + rear to have same tires all around.

Are the AD08R much better than S02 (n3)??

(I assume the s02 n3 must be similar to oem s02 for s2000 but I cannot verify this anywhere).

My main concern was tirewall stiffness for sharp and steady turn in at 16" AP1 wheels.

thanks again!

rpg51

The two tires you are looking at are very different. I think you need to make a fundamental decision about what type of tire you want. Are you looking for a super sticky tire that will work well on the track and function also on the street? Or, are you looking for a good handling tire for mostly, or completely street driving? After you make that decision, then select a tire from the category you land on. If you are not driving on the track regularly, I question the wisdom of running super sticky extreme performance tires. You frequently mention cost as a big factor for you. But, you have to realize that a lot of the cost relates to how long the tires last, not the price. Watch this video, he explains it better than I could:


If you end up looking for a good handling street tire, as opposed to a super sticky track tire, consider Continental Extremecontact Sport and Firestone Firehawk over the S02 as two of the best offerings for a good fun street tire. If you end up looking for a good super sticky type tire - I'll leave that to others to comment on.

freq

Analysis to paralysis.

rpg51

True. Going around in circles.

simons

thanks for your input. But this is a situation only relevant for AP1 tires due to high sidewall.

The firestone has no ap1 tires. Only front. At least in Europe.

The continental I have no idea if they have a very stiff sidewall. I think they have normal sidewall.

Not all high/max/ultra performance tires have stidf sidewall. Especially because almost nobody use 205-55-16 tires on sportscar in 2019. So most tires are developped for 17/18 shoet sidewall. Which makes any tire much more stiff then a 16 205-55 due to low sidewall.

So my question was only for AP1 tires. Especially the front.

You ask what im looking for: Stiff sidewall. Good grip but no need for ultra grip. Because Ultra grip tire with soft sidewall still drive like shit in 205-55-16.

I hope its more clear now. And my main question was about AD08R vs S02(n3).

unless you have personal experience in Ap1 size stiff tire.

I now run one of top summer tires for road from Bridgestone Adrenalin RE002. They are plenty sricky, but the sidewall is so soft (soft I mean like normal tire) they drive like shit. The car gets very unpredictable and the tires do not communicate well because the car gets wobly on the limmit. I hope now its more clear. I drove this tires at 0 deg celcius, and from the cold the sidewall got stiff and they drove great with sharp steering and excelent grip. But this is summer tire. And at 8+ deg celcius they get soft and indirect. Hope you understand.

any more advice is welcome.

s2000Junky

Any tire in the Extreme summer category will have a firm 2 ply sidewall construction and offer similar direct handling character as the original S02.

noodels

Just don't rush into it !! do some first

HarryD

No man, not to each their own. There are facts, and then there are opinions.

Driving summer compounds in winter temperatures can be, at best, damaging to your tire compound, or at worst, dangerous to you and those around you:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=273
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...king/index.htm

Granted, while 0°C (32°F) is below what Tirerack recommends, it's not an extreme outlier either. They have this warning for -7°C (20°F):
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...0&autoModClar=
Then again, it looks like you're mixing tires front and back and messing with your EPS? I don't even...