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Old May 17, 2017 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
Perhaps the reason the rebuild shop is out of business has more to do with the quality of their work, or lack thereof. What a nightmare. Sorry for your situation.
it's sad too because this engine actually ran great when I bought it, it purred like a kitten on the highway and it still purred when when the knocking had started. If they had used the proper Pistons I'm sure there would be no problem still today.

and you know what else is ridiculous? I've had three shops so far look at the engine and say the engine is "definitely" not even sleeved, and one of them even had the audacity to say he didn't believe the engine had ever been cracked open before... This is such a joke considering how hard it was to remove the connecting rod bolts... Because they had be re-used. So it's definitely not just Assist Motorsports of Stone mountain to blame, but just the fact that most shops actually have no fking clue what they are doing. This is why I don't trust anyone besides myself to work on my car.

i still can't believe the shop machined off the FRM sleeves and knowingly put the original Pistons back in, and wrote on the paperwork that the Pistons were replaced.. That sounds like a lawsuit to me but they are long gone now.

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Old May 17, 2017 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitchelperkins
i went ahead and disassembled the whole timing assembly(plan to replace chains and guides while I am so deep in the engine anyways) so the engine spins very freely now and the crank seems to be in great shape, a couple of the shops I've talked to claim I'd be crazy to not remove and machine the crank, but it doesn't appear to have anything wrong with it and it's quite possible the last shop had already machined it then... what do you think is best?


Crank needs to be inspected, micd, and possibly polished.

If you want to give your engine extreme health in timing components department, get a new and sprockets.

New guides are a good idea, but have a marginal effect on chain geometry. New sprockets on the other hand will have considerable positive effect on the chain geometry.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
Crank needs to be inspected, micd, and possibly polished.

If you want to give your engine extreme health in timing components department, get a new and sprockets.

New guides are a good idea, but have a marginal effect on chain geometry. New sprockets on the other hand will have considerable positive effect on the chain geometry.
I have the engine at a reputable machine shop today and they are going to hone the cylinders likely to a .20 over to compensate for the minor cylinder scoring. I will have them inspect the crank and decide what it needs and when the engine is back I will take pictures so everyone can see exactly how it looks. Considering the engine was initially rebuilt for oil starvation, I wouldn't be surprised if the crank was rebuilt in the process but there is no way for me to know for sure.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 05:54 AM
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If the crank is in good shape, and all the values check out, I'd get a new piston, and just transfer everything to this block.

Honda S2000 OEM stock ENGINE MOTOR BLOCK CASE AP2 2.2L F22 F22c F22c1 free ship
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Old May 17, 2017 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowcrash_101
If the crank is in good shape, and all the values check out, I'd get a new piston, and just transfer everything to this block.

Honda S2000 OEM stock ENGINE MOTOR BLOCK CASE AP2 2.2L F22 F22c F22c1 free ship
that's an F22 versus my F20, I feel like there would be some problems moving over all the F20 parts onto it? Or am I wrong?
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Old May 17, 2017 | 06:28 AM
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That block is no good. Some idiot took a screwdriver to the piston and chipped the walls. Ridiculous way to kill an engine block.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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Whoa! Yeah never mind, but yeah F22 and F20 blocks are essentially interchangeable. Who would ruin a block like that, shame.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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lol, do what you gotta do.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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How does anyone know what condition a block or other used parts are in. Someone who knows what they are doing need to inspect part. In person. Can't tell anything by looking at pictures. For the most part.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfassjack
How does anyone know what condition a block or other used parts are in. Someone who knows what they are doing need to inspect part. In person. Can't tell anything by looking at pictures. For the most part.
Exactly. Which is why I won't be buying any critical parts without seeing them in person.

Still looking for a used OEM alternative while slowly rebuilding my engine. I figure if i find one before i finish I'll throw in the used engine and sell my rebuilt one. Should be ready to re-assemble my engine here in a week or two and get this car back on the road. No one is going to pay me a damn thing for the rolling chassis so might as well just fix it up and make her pretty.
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