AP1 S2000 Engine ticking - Stumped!!
At this point i have a pretty serious concern with the rebuild process, and it is the crankshaft.
It looks like it is perfect shape. Functions perfectly as far as I can tell, and I'm assuming it was rebuilt/replaced when the engine was "remanufactured" and sleeved by the first shop. I am very leery of touching anything on this engine that actually seems to be functioning as it is supposed to, and even if it is original i dont feel like 120k miles is the end of its' life cycle.
I am terrified that if i have the crank removed and machined that somewhere in that process something is going to be messed up and I will have to pull the engine again over the crank. Is it really necessary to machine it? And I have no idea on where I can find a shop that is familiar with the important nitrating procedure on these cranks. I want to do what is best for the engine but I definitely cannot afford to create any additional problems.
Opinions?
It looks like it is perfect shape. Functions perfectly as far as I can tell, and I'm assuming it was rebuilt/replaced when the engine was "remanufactured" and sleeved by the first shop. I am very leery of touching anything on this engine that actually seems to be functioning as it is supposed to, and even if it is original i dont feel like 120k miles is the end of its' life cycle.
I am terrified that if i have the crank removed and machined that somewhere in that process something is going to be messed up and I will have to pull the engine again over the crank. Is it really necessary to machine it? And I have no idea on where I can find a shop that is familiar with the important nitrating procedure on these cranks. I want to do what is best for the engine but I definitely cannot afford to create any additional problems.
Opinions?
At this point i have a pretty serious concern with the rebuild process, and it is the crankshaft.
It looks like it is perfect shape. Functions perfectly as far as I can tell, and I'm assuming it was rebuilt/replaced when the engine was "remanufactured" and sleeved by the first shop. I am very leery of touching anything on this engine that actually seems to be functioning as it is supposed to, and even if it is original i dont feel like 120k miles is the end of its' life cycle.
I am terrified that if i have the crank removed and machined that somewhere in that process something is going to be messed up and I will have to pull the engine again over the crank. Is it really necessary to machine it? And I have no idea on where I can find a shop that is familiar with the important nitrating procedure on these cranks. I want to do what is best for the engine but I definitely cannot afford to create any additional problems.
Opinions?
It looks like it is perfect shape. Functions perfectly as far as I can tell, and I'm assuming it was rebuilt/replaced when the engine was "remanufactured" and sleeved by the first shop. I am very leery of touching anything on this engine that actually seems to be functioning as it is supposed to, and even if it is original i dont feel like 120k miles is the end of its' life cycle.
I am terrified that if i have the crank removed and machined that somewhere in that process something is going to be messed up and I will have to pull the engine again over the crank. Is it really necessary to machine it? And I have no idea on where I can find a shop that is familiar with the important nitrating procedure on these cranks. I want to do what is best for the engine but I definitely cannot afford to create any additional problems.
Opinions?
Like was stated, you have to at the very least inspect it yourself. Some pics of the crank would be nice, if the journals are flawless, mic them to see if they're in spec and carry on. I agree, it's best to take a light touch approach to re-building these engines, and to stick to OEM parts as much as possible. Seeing as you're sleeved, if you can machine the block you will need non-frm pistons, the good news is that non FRM pistons are cheaper. K series engines I believe have the same exact bore as the F20/22 so that could be an option as far as sourcing pistons.
Like was stated, you have to at the very least inspect it yourself. Some pics of the crank would be nice, if the journals are flawless, mic them to see if they're in spec and carry on. I agree, it's best to take a light touch approach to re-building these engines, and to stick to OEM parts as much as possible. Seeing as you're sleeved, if you can machine the block you will need non-frm pistons, the good news is that non FRM pistons are cheaper. K series engines I believe have the same exact bore as the F20/22 so that could be an option as far as sourcing pistons.
i never thought of sourcing K series Pistons to keep the engine stock. Would this really work and would I be better off with used OEM Pistons versus new aftermarket? Obviously contingent on keeping the stock bore.
If the pistons are within spec there's no reason to replace them. Used or otherwise. New is perfectly fine, I'm just saying Honda makes good pistons, when people downgrade to aftermarket pistons it's your gain. The 2.4 K-series has the same bore as the F series, and you have choices regarding compression ratios. Should you want to run boost or whatever, not to mention actual availability of OEM oversize pistons. Only downside is that FRM is lower friction material than steel sleeves, so the FRM is more tolerant to continuous high rpm use.
If the pistons are within spec there's no reason to replace them. Used or otherwise. New is perfectly fine, I'm just saying Honda makes good pistons, when people downgrade to aftermarket pistons it's your gain. The 2.4 K-series has the same bore as the F series, and you have choices regarding compression ratios. Should you want to run boost or whatever, not to mention actual availability of OEM oversize pistons. Only downside is that FRM is lower friction material than steel sleeves, so the FRM is more tolerant to continuous high rpm use.
Pistons & Rod Combos
Leaning towards CP pistons and skunk2 rods.







