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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by B serious
^Lol...I drove a car from downtown Chicago (in rush hour) back to the burbies that way once.

Teh stressssss....
No shit... especially when traffic is behind you and you have to lurch away from every stoplight like someone who has never driven a manual before It truly sucks, but gets the job done!
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 01:32 PM
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
No shit... especially when traffic is behind you and you have to lurch away from every stoplight like someone who has never driven a manual before It truly sucks, but gets the job done!
My friend wasn't making it easier...he kept bumping into me on purpose and laughing.

the worst is trying to keep a rolling gap on the highway when its rush hour.

people fill in the gap and stop in front of you.

Got it in, though. Level:Expert.
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by B serious
My friend wasn't making it easier...he kept bumping into me on purpose and laughing.

the worst is trying to keep a rolling gap on the highway when its rush hour.

people fill in the gap and stop in front of you.

Got it in, though. Level:Expert.
You and I must have had similar friends lol. We used to come up and bump into each other while driving all the time. We all mostly had shit cars back then so it wasnt really hurting anything, but it was funny as hell.
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by B serious
Just the CMC seal near the firewall.

It probably got low on fluid and succ'd some air in.

A 1 man bleeding procedure works 2X as well as a 2 man procedure. The math is staggering, I realize. But the lesson is to always use a 1 man bleeder.
The reservoir was full when I checked it after pulling over on my drive the day it happened. that's the first thing I thought too was the CMC must have been bad or was low on fluid, it wasn't, but I guess it could have sucked air somehow.

I will be sure to do the 1 person bleed once I get everything put back together.
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
As a bit of info, and I am not responsible for you messing up your car if you do it wrong. But if in a bad pinch and you cannot disengage the clutch on a manual transmission car .... and HAVE to get the car someone safer, then there is a way.

Shut car off.
If you can point it downhill, that is better
Put car in first gear
Push in clutch
Crank the starter
The car will lurch of course, but it will start and you will be moving

Avoid stopping if you have to or you will need to repeat (If you do stop, pop car into neutral, come to stop, then shut it off again)

you can shift through the gears without disengaging the clutch if you are good driving a manual.

I have driven a car 15 miles this way, half through traffic before.

If you have to stop twice in close proximity, best to let the starter cool before you start it again since you are putting more strain on it.

And as a note, some off road vehicles come with a clutch safety bypass for doing this on hills when offroading, so this is not unheard of.
Great info to know!

With the problem I'm having is more of the car not going into gear because the clutch did not feel like it was engaging properly or at all...

BTW, EFFFFFF THAT!! The stress of driving a car like that in rush hour traffic is def #ProStatus. Hahahah!!! I was stressed TFO and straight-up ran a few stop signs getting home as opposed to trying to stop because I didn't trust the car to go back into gear if I disengaged it to stop. LOL!
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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100% all the lines are installed correctly? Its super easy to crossthread the CMC imo.
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by F1-Fiddy
Great info to know!

With the problem I'm having is more of the car not going into gear because the clutch did not feel like it was engaging properly or at all...

BTW, EFFFFFF THAT!! The stress of driving a car like that in rush hour traffic is def #ProStatus. Hahahah!!! I was stressed TFO and straight-up ran a few stop signs getting home as opposed to trying to stop because I didn't trust the car to go back into gear if I disengaged it to stop. LOL!
Yeah it really is a last ditch backup method

To clarify, your issue is that the clutch is not DIS engaging. It is staying engaged which is why you cannot put it into gear while running. Once you shut it off it should go right into gear. When you depress the clutch pedal, you disengage the clutch, when you release the pedal you engage the clutch. It may sound confusing since you are pressing the pedal (aka "engaging" the pedal). If the hydraulics are not working correctly, when you press the pedal it does not disengage the clutch, which prevents you from putting it into gear while the engine is running.
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by maranelloboy05
100% all the lines are installed correctly? Its super easy to crossthread the CMC imo.
I didn't replace any of the lines. Are you referring to the clutch hard line getting crossthreaded?
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Yeah it really is a last ditch backup method

To clarify, your issue is that the clutch is not DIS engaging. It is staying engaged which is why you cannot put it into gear while running. Once you shut it off it should go right into gear. When you depress the clutch pedal, you disengage the clutch, when you release the pedal you engage the clutch. It may sound confusing since you are pressing the pedal (aka "engaging" the pedal). If the hydraulics are not working correctly, when you press the pedal it does not disengage the clutch, which prevents you from putting it into gear while the engine is running.
Gotcha! Ugh.. you would think I would know this basic principle.. thanks for the clarification man.
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Old Aug 29, 2020 | 03:38 AM
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The report is that before the transmission was removed the MC and the Slave had both been replaced, the system had been bled. The release fork was sound and correctly installed. But, the pedal continued to move to the floor with zero resistance. Do the old pressure plate splines have any resistance when you press them? When you pressed on the clutch pedal did the slave push on the fork and move it forward? Seems like a real mystery to me.

Please report back if you ever do figure out what is going on.

Good luck with it.
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