Is a Header really worth the money?
Thanks,
I know I need to do the research, and I'm going to search through the site but a quick question, Do you think it increases the gas mileage by 10-15%? (from say 25 miles to the gallon to 19-22) and does it suck for highway use?
I know I need to do the research, and I'm going to search through the site but a quick question, Do you think it increases the gas mileage by 10-15%? (from say 25 miles to the gallon to 19-22) and does it suck for highway use?
with xviper, not many peeps won't
... I'm going to run a zex dry nitrous with a 50hp shot to see where I'll be come next track day, depending on what the outcome is I might go 75hp but I don't really want to unless I'm really temped. Anyhow, our S (like many had said already) is a beast from the factory so it's hard to add hp from simple bolt ons
. I know I can't wait 'til it's warmer again so I can go topless
...
Originally Posted by figurethisout,Feb 28 2005, 09:57 PM
Thanks,
I know I need to do the research, and I'm going to search through the site but a quick question, Do you think it increases the gas mileage by 10-15%? (from say 25 miles to the gallon to 19-22) and does it suck for highway use?
I know I need to do the research, and I'm going to search through the site but a quick question, Do you think it increases the gas mileage by 10-15%? (from say 25 miles to the gallon to 19-22) and does it suck for highway use?
4.3 isn't worth the effort - just not enough of a punch.
4.44 is hard to get - the world's supply has dried up except for what someone might have laying around.
4.57 is the best bang for the buck, but tend to make a bit of whine (normal).
4.77 is also good but you need to be lightning fast at shifting or you'll lose the advantage in acceleration over given speed and distance. Highway rpm might be a bit high for you and can get annoying.
5.1 has to be imported from Japan and is way too high for most applications in N. America.
I found my in city gas mileage actually get better with my 4.44s as I was generally driving in one gear higher just to keep the revs down to where I was more accustomed to before the gear swap. Highway fuel economy will take a bit of a hit simply because you will still drive in 6th gear and the higher ratio will make your rpms proportionally higher. Before the 4.44s, I was getting 39.9 miles per Canadian gallon on the highway. After, I was getting a best of 36.9 on the same leg of the trip. That's the real world difference.
Originally Posted by Reds2kracer,Feb 28 2005, 03:18 PM
I got a DC sport stainless steel header on my 00 S and I can personally say that I've felt nothing different after installing it, I'm not saying that it adds no hp but I haven't really feel any gain what so ever
. My mod are just simply bolt on like I/H/E so I can say that it really ain't worth the extra money for the little to no gain hp/tq headers, our S like many had said doesn't respond well to aftermarket parts/upgrade unless you go the nitrous/supercharger/turbo route so I say save you money and get one of those for the true hp/tq gain that you can really feel
. Also I read a spec sheet about peeps who dyno'ed their S with bolt ons before and after each one and the addition of a DC header only added 3 hp gain which is like I'd said, little to no gain at all and nothing you can really feel
. Do your own research and make up your mind if you want to or don't, DC headers run anywhere from $250.00-$350.00 and installation is a pain too if you only have jack stands
.
. My mod are just simply bolt on like I/H/E so I can say that it really ain't worth the extra money for the little to no gain hp/tq headers, our S like many had said doesn't respond well to aftermarket parts/upgrade unless you go the nitrous/supercharger/turbo route so I say save you money and get one of those for the true hp/tq gain that you can really feel
. Also I read a spec sheet about peeps who dyno'ed their S with bolt ons before and after each one and the addition of a DC header only added 3 hp gain which is like I'd said, little to no gain at all and nothing you can really feel
. Do your own research and make up your mind if you want to or don't, DC headers run anywhere from $250.00-$350.00 and installation is a pain too if you only have jack stands
With that being said wpriller, any addition of hp/tq mods to your car can damage it in any ways. We're not here to say that i/h/e doesn't add hp/tq to our S, we're just saying that it's doesn't compare to FI or nitrous reguarding to feeling the true hp/tq gain as with i/h/e on our S.
It all depends upon which ratio you pick. The stock gearing is 4.10. You can go 4.3, 4.44, 4.57, 4.77, 5.1.
4.3 isn't worth the effort - just not enough of a punch.
4.44 is hard to get - the world's supply has dried up except for what someone might have laying around.
4.57 is the best bang for the buck, but tend to make a bit of whine (normal).
4.77 is also good but you need to be lightning fast at shifting or you'll lose the advantage in acceleration over given speed and distance. Highway rpm might be a bit high for you and can get annoying.
5.1 has to be imported from Japan and is way too high for most applications in N. America.
I found my in city gas mileage actually get better with my 4.44s as I was generally driving in one gear higher just to keep the revs down to where I was more accustomed to before the gear swap. Highway fuel economy will take a bit of a hit simply because you will still drive in 6th gear and the higher ratio will make your rpms proportionally higher. Before the 4.44s, I was getting 39.9 miles per Canadian gallon on the highway. After, I was getting a best of 36.9 on the same leg of the trip. That's the real world difference.
4.3 isn't worth the effort - just not enough of a punch.
4.44 is hard to get - the world's supply has dried up except for what someone might have laying around.
4.57 is the best bang for the buck, but tend to make a bit of whine (normal).
4.77 is also good but you need to be lightning fast at shifting or you'll lose the advantage in acceleration over given speed and distance. Highway rpm might be a bit high for you and can get annoying.
5.1 has to be imported from Japan and is way too high for most applications in N. America.
I found my in city gas mileage actually get better with my 4.44s as I was generally driving in one gear higher just to keep the revs down to where I was more accustomed to before the gear swap. Highway fuel economy will take a bit of a hit simply because you will still drive in 6th gear and the higher ratio will make your rpms proportionally higher. Before the 4.44s, I was getting 39.9 miles per Canadian gallon on the highway. After, I was getting a best of 36.9 on the same leg of the trip. That's the real world difference.



