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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver9k,Oct 17 2005, 12:01 AM
There is such a large cavity behind it creating a much lower pressure. Thus, Bernoulli's principle, and the venturi effect. The air that is traveling through that small area will speed up and probably cool, and pressure should go up. Meaning close to the same volume of air is still getting through.
So if your theory is correct the throttle restrictor plate on some race cars can be easily defeated by using a larger intake plenum?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver9k,Oct 17 2005, 12:01 AM
In response to #1...do you think the change in cross sectional area really makes much of a difference with a snorkle. There is such a large cavity behind it creating a much lower pressure. Thus, Bernoulli's principle, and the venturi effect. The air that is traveling through that small area will speed up and probably cool, and pressure should go up. Meaning close to the same volume of air is still getting through.

Yes, this area is a restriction, but how big of one? Probably not much. Will this new thing make more power? Probably not.

The only benifits I see in this product are:
1. Low Price (I assume)
2. Stock Looking

I doubt it will operate better then a snorkle, and anybody that worries about water issues with are snorkle is a flippin nut case. If its going to sell it should be based on the price, and the fact that it looks stock. Ya, sand and grit thing holds true, but errg...how hard is it to clean once every 4 months...lol

good luck with this, nice job...hopefully you keep the price low and get a lot of these out there...I'm sure it'll work just fine. Personally, I'm keeping my V1 though.
I'm not a hydrodynamics engineer, so I can't give you numbers for airflow, etc. With any restriction, yes, air will speed up to get past it, but if you continue to increase the restriction, you get to a point where the air volume after the restriction simply won't be as much as if you had no restriction. Otherwise, how would you ever shut off flow by continuing the restriction through valves? However, you've only keyed in on only a single point that I tried to make. Please re-read my previous posts to see the other points.
At no time have I or anyone else here said that this new device "makes power". Again, you've missed the key points.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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I'd buy one.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wind,Oct 17 2005, 12:04 AM
So if your theory is correct the throttle restrictor plate on some race cars can be easily defeated by using a larger intake plenum?
hehe...not my theory. some guy hundreds of years ago came up with it
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by xviper,Oct 17 2005, 04:44 AM
I'm not a hydrodynamics engineer, so I can't give you numbers for airflow, etc. With any restriction, yes, air will speed up to get past it, but if you continue to increase the restriction, you get to a point where the air volume after the restriction simply won't be as much as if you had no restriction. Otherwise, how would you ever shut off flow by continuing the restriction through valves? However, you've only keyed in on only a single point that I tried to make. Please re-read my previous posts to see the other points.
At no time have I or anyone else here said that this new device "makes power". Again, you've missed the key points.
Of course...I admitted that it is definitly a restriction. However, what I was saying is the for our car, if it was that bad of a restriction we would be loosing power when we put it on...however we don't. Thats what I meant, if it was possible to use on a supercharged S, I wouldn't. It probably would start to limit power when you are try to draw larger quantities of air through. Stock though...theres just not enough airflow for it to matter.

Again, I don't think this is a bad design, I support the guy that is making it. I did go back and read your posts on page 2, and the others on this page. I didn't see what key points I missed, but feel free to point them out.

I do agree that this is drawing in air from a "cold" reservior (basically, the atmosphere)...rather than in the engine bay, and is better. Probably only $100 bucks better though . This should reduce bog, and should provide more consistent performance. But I don't see the other benifits in it, unlike the AEM, which also has drawbacks.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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To the creator of the first side snorkle!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I would love to see this go into production.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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For those of you with a DIY streak, I've seen pics of a stock intake box that had a hole cut into the side, then a hose run from the box into the passenger fender well hole. Of course, the internal airbox ducting needs to be cut out as well.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver9k,Oct 17 2005, 08:52 AM
I didn't see what key points I missed, but feel free to point them out.
Naw, not going to keep hashing this out. I just think we're emphasizing different points.
Another issue may be that some people who have bought "snorkels" and AEMs lately may feel that this product may be slamming those other ones. AT NO TIME has anyone done this. The front "snorkel" does its thing and so does the AEM. We all know what the AEM type can do. I was merely pointing out some of the differences (and some pros) between the "side" snorkel and the front one. Noone should feel that their mod is being slighted in any way. You guys should not be feeling so insecure. There are many, many owners who would like to keep the stock airbox, get rid of the heat ingestion AND not have to do any airguide surgery.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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Put me on the waiting list for this product, I want one!
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