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I asked Sean at torqueFreks and he reccomended me 680cc, Guys at inline reccomend me 575 cc.
My kit is the third produced. What I want to know how much can I rev it safely and for a long period. I have been told that the RPM limit is 8000 rpms.
anyone know how to calculare the rod ratio?
Regarding the valve cover is funny that most of honda fans want to paint red the valve cover, bacause type R engines have it. Now we have a red valve cover and people want to paint it on yellow or blue...
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I asked Sean at torqueFreks and he reccomended me 680cc, Guys at inline reccomend me 575 cc.
My kit is the third produced. What I want to know how much can I rev it safely and for a long period. I have been told that the RPM limit is 8000 rpms.
anyone know how to calculare the rod ratio?
Regarding the valve cover is funny that most of honda fans want to paint red the valve cover, bacause type R engines have it. Now we have a red valve cover and people want to paint it on yellow or blue...
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Originally Posted by AusS2000' date='Feb 20 2005, 12:29 PM
You do realise that it's not jay-dee-eem! 
I guess you could paint the valve cover.
I guess you could paint the valve cover.
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Originally Posted by terd ferguson' date='Feb 21 2005, 08:35 AM
I've never said JDM is the end all be all of performance. It just so happens that there are not many non-JDM performance parts for an S 2000. With a Civic, you could build a kick ass motor starting with the Beast from Mr. Gasket or some other reasonable equivalent, and not use a single JDM part from the engine to the suspension. This is not the case with the S 2000.
It may not be on the shelf, but it's off the hook!
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Originally Posted by AusS2000' date='Feb 20 2005, 02:43 PM
The whole point of my argument in this thread is that you can spend bucket loads on a JDM solution OR open your eyes, do a bit of research, and get the same if not better for much less money from a local provider.
It may not be on the shelf, but it's off the hook!
It may not be on the shelf, but it's off the hook!
If I am in need of a new motor, I will most likely have one built to my specs right here in the good ole US of A. Does that surprise you? Now, some of the parts may come from Japan (Honda OEM mostly), but it will be built here by a competent engine builder. That is, unless I am under some kind of strict deadline to get the car back running as quickly as possible (under those circumstances, I'd probably get a crate motor shipped asap).
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Then I'm at a loss as to what we are arguing about. Even you are suggesting you would do what I would and have a motor built here.
No wait, unless there is some amazing magic in this info we are all waiting on then all I can say is you would have to be in one hell of a hurry, very lazy, and very rich to think $11K drive away was a good deal. But that is just a matter of opinion.
You see, I could go to my mechanic and tell him I want to drive in one day with a stock engine and out the following with 300hp NA. I expect what he would do is pre-source a used block, have local engineers do the work with local or foreign parts call me when it's ready and then install it for me. And I suspect the bill would be a lot less than $11K. Same amount of downtime. And a spare engine to boot.
You might say that J's have crate motors on the shelf, but A) do they? I doubt they keep extensive stock. And B) there is still shipping and clearance which is either slow or expensive. And C) is the difference in cost (current estimates say about $4K) worth the time saved (if any).
No wait, unless there is some amazing magic in this info we are all waiting on then all I can say is you would have to be in one hell of a hurry, very lazy, and very rich to think $11K drive away was a good deal. But that is just a matter of opinion.
You see, I could go to my mechanic and tell him I want to drive in one day with a stock engine and out the following with 300hp NA. I expect what he would do is pre-source a used block, have local engineers do the work with local or foreign parts call me when it's ready and then install it for me. And I suspect the bill would be a lot less than $11K. Same amount of downtime. And a spare engine to boot.
You might say that J's have crate motors on the shelf, but A) do they? I doubt they keep extensive stock. And B) there is still shipping and clearance which is either slow or expensive. And C) is the difference in cost (current estimates say about $4K) worth the time saved (if any).
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Originally Posted by AusS2000' date='Feb 20 2005, 05:42 PM
Then I'm at a loss as to what we are arguing about. Even you are suggesting you would do what I would and have a motor built here.
No wait, unless there is some amazing magic in this info we are all waiting on then all I can say is you would have to be in one hell of a hurry, very lazy, and very rich to think $11K drive away was a good deal. But that is just a matter of opinion.
You see, I could go to my mechanic and tell him I want to drive in one day with a stock engine and out the following with 300hp NA. I expect what he would do is pre-source a used block, have local engineers do the work with local or foreign parts call me when it's ready and then install it for me. And I suspect the bill would be a lot less than $11K. Same amount of downtime. And a spare engine to boot.
You might say that J's have crate motors on the shelf, but A) do they? I doubt they keep extensive stock. And B) there is still shipping and clearance which is either slow or expensive. And C) is the difference in cost (current estimates say about $4K) worth the time saved (if any).
No wait, unless there is some amazing magic in this info we are all waiting on then all I can say is you would have to be in one hell of a hurry, very lazy, and very rich to think $11K drive away was a good deal. But that is just a matter of opinion.
You see, I could go to my mechanic and tell him I want to drive in one day with a stock engine and out the following with 300hp NA. I expect what he would do is pre-source a used block, have local engineers do the work with local or foreign parts call me when it's ready and then install it for me. And I suspect the bill would be a lot less than $11K. Same amount of downtime. And a spare engine to boot.
You might say that J's have crate motors on the shelf, but A) do they? I doubt they keep extensive stock. And B) there is still shipping and clearance which is either slow or expensive. And C) is the difference in cost (current estimates say about $4K) worth the time saved (if any).
The only point I would like to prove is to the JDM detractors. Its not as expensive as you think and it does make the power J's claims.
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UL,
Has Joe Alaniz done a F/I motor yet? With all of his engine work (that he will do for a street car) and an AEM EMS, what would you expect to get out of a supercharged motor? Any ideas? I'm just dreaming here about dropping $17K on a custom S2000 motor.
Has Joe Alaniz done a F/I motor yet? With all of his engine work (that he will do for a street car) and an AEM EMS, what would you expect to get out of a supercharged motor? Any ideas? I'm just dreaming here about dropping $17K on a custom S2000 motor.