Oil change question
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Wisconsin S2k Posted on Jun 8 2006, 07:29 PM
also, 0w40 is NOT a recommended weight for this car. in fact, our local tribologist RR recommended against using ANY oil weight on this car that has that large a difference in weight from the cold to operating weights.
I think this the Road Rage recommendation you are referring to:
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Jun 8 2006, 02:45 AM
Fram is NOT the filter you want to use on this car. They are cheap wal-mart filters. S2000 needs a high pressure oil filter. I would drive the car very cautiously back to the oil change place and tell them to do it right.
Honda PCX filters are like 6 bucks from handa (yes, handa )
Honda PCX filters are like 6 bucks from handa (yes, handa
)The ONLY oil filter I would consider using on the S is the Toyo Roki made PCX OEM high pressure filter.
If I were in a bind I would consider a green HAMP but switch it out as soon as I had access to the PCX.
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There is a Honda dealer in Trinidad, but they never sold S2000s, so it is not a "supported" car here. My particular car was brought in from the UK by the owner of the Honda dealer here, and I bought it off of him.
I have had to bring in the shop and electrical manuals for them. They do not have the exact filter for the S. So I have ordered a few from Manchester Honda on the web.
I wil leave the oil for now though it may be a bit heavy on the hot side, maybe it will cause a slightly higher pressure - all the more reason I want to change the Fram ASAP.
Thanks for all the good info folks. Won't be making this mistake again!
Bill
I have had to bring in the shop and electrical manuals for them. They do not have the exact filter for the S. So I have ordered a few from Manchester Honda on the web.
I wil leave the oil for now though it may be a bit heavy on the hot side, maybe it will cause a slightly higher pressure - all the more reason I want to change the Fram ASAP.
Thanks for all the good info folks. Won't be making this mistake again!
Bill
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 8 2006, 01:34 PM
Wisconsin S2k Posted on Jun 8 2006, 07:29 PM
You are right in saying its not recommended by Honda.
I think this the Road Rage recommendation you are referring to:
This was posted 2 years ago.
Advances in VI improvers has continued in those 2 years, no doubt.
Especially with those big oil companys as Mobil, Shell, etc.
Even IF the current Mobil 1 0W-40 shears down a bit... and it turns out to be a 30 weight or so, no problem there. Key word : IF
I am by NO means a tribologist, nore do I pretend to be one.
I did do a LOT of reading on BITOG, the "Home of tribologists" and asked some questions there.
That made me make an informed decision about what oil to use for my S2000.
And I am happy to share that.
So, IMO
Get another filter, the PCX one.
Don't worrie about the oil.
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I've been changing my oil with mobil1 extended performance 5w-30 and mobil 1 filter.
Yesterday after doing some research i switched to valvoline max life synthetic 10w-30 and a pure one filter and am impressed. valvetrain noise reduced by like 50%.
for valvoline maxlife synt.
Yesterday after doing some research i switched to valvoline max life synthetic 10w-30 and a pure one filter and am impressed. valvetrain noise reduced by like 50%.
for valvoline maxlife synt.
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Jun 9 2006, 12:42 PM
And what was the reasoning behind this answer?
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silencertk Posted on Jun 9 2006, 08:58 PM
On BITOG Mobil is "known" for making valvetrains noisy.
Lots of reports from ppl saying its noisy with Mobil 1 or quiet with other oils.
I have not been able to find any reasoning behind it.
(Imagine an internetforum as big as S2Ki on oil alone
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@ Wisconsin : the Visc of my Shell 0W-40 at 100C is 13.5 Cst.
According to a list found on BITOG all 10W-30 are thinner.
Here is a link to that list:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultima...c;f=11;t=000310
I really dont know for sure I'm going to use the 0W-40 again.. I might even go to 0W-30, to "free-up some horses" by the thinner oil at operating temp => less pump loss. That said, I still have another 6 liters of the 0W-40 sitting here so I think i'm going to use that up first. The UOA will hopefully provide me with some data on how my 0W-40 did in the F20C. Patience my friend
I've been changing my oil with mobil1 extended performance 5w-30 and mobil 1 filter.Yesterday after doing some research i switched to valvoline max life synthetic 10w-30 and a pure one filter and am impressed. valvetrain noise reduced by like 50%.
Lots of reports from ppl saying its noisy with Mobil 1 or quiet with other oils.
I have not been able to find any reasoning behind it.
(Imagine an internetforum as big as S2Ki on oil alone
)@ Wisconsin : the Visc of my Shell 0W-40 at 100C is 13.5 Cst.
According to a list found on BITOG all 10W-30 are thinner.
Here is a link to that list:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultima...c;f=11;t=000310
I really dont know for sure I'm going to use the 0W-40 again.. I might even go to 0W-30, to "free-up some horses" by the thinner oil at operating temp => less pump loss. That said, I still have another 6 liters of the 0W-40 sitting here so I think i'm going to use that up first. The UOA will hopefully provide me with some data on how my 0W-40 did in the F20C. Patience my friend