Stereo mute button lite all the time!
The OEM radio needs a +12v signal to mute, which is opposite of all after-market stereos (which need a ground). The relay just converts the +12 signal to a ground. The problem is the OEM radio only needs a couple milliamps to mute so Honda didn't engineer the mute signal to provide the several hundred milliamps that some auto relays consume.
Try to find a low-current relay, some are as low as 15 or 20 milliamps. If you have an ohm meter measure the coil resistance of the relay, if it's 300 ohms or more you should be OK, 500 ohms or more is preferable. You'll probably find yours is between 100 and 200 ohms, too much current is needed to drive it.
Originally Posted by paul2011s2000' timestamp='1356988577' post='22238768
What I'm thinking now is, perhaps the relay is drawing too much current through the mute circuit, and that this is what has caused the damage.......don't know, just an idea.
The OEM radio needs a +12v signal to mute, which is opposite of all after-market stereos (which need a ground). The relay just converts the +12 signal to a ground. The problem is the OEM radio only needs a couple milliamps to mute so Honda didn't engineer the mute signal to provide the several hundred milliamps that some auto relays consume.
Try to find a low-current relay, some are as low as 15 or 20 milliamps. If you have an ohm meter measure the coil resistance of the relay, if it's 300 ohms or more you should be OK, 500 ohms or more is preferable. You'll probably find yours is between 100 and 200 ohms, too much current is needed to drive it.
Originally Posted by paul2011s2000' timestamp='1356988577' post='22238768
What I'm thinking now is, perhaps the relay is drawing too much current through the mute circuit, and that this is what has caused the damage.......don't know, just an idea.
The OEM radio needs a +12v signal to mute, which is opposite of all after-market stereos (which need a ground). The relay just converts the +12 signal to a ground. The problem is the OEM radio only needs a couple milliamps to mute so Honda didn't engineer the mute signal to provide the several hundred milliamps that some auto relays consume.
Try to find a low-current relay, some are as low as 15 or 20 milliamps. If you have an ohm meter measure the coil resistance of the relay, if it's 300 ohms or more you should be OK, 500 ohms or more is preferable. You'll probably find yours is between 100 and 200 ohms, too much current is needed to drive it.
Also, today my new transistors came. So I removed TR3(was not too difficult), and re-soldered the new one.
And bugger me, it now works again!
Think I'll leave the relay out for now until I can replace with a lower amperage, just in case. Although I guess its possible this new transistor will be more tolerant?!
For me, it's so satisfying being able to fix something I can't tell you. Thank you all, especially Modifry, as it's very unlikely I'd have got this done without your help. Bloody awesome!
Originally Posted by dwight' timestamp='1356976219' post='22238400
[quote name='JFUSION' timestamp='1356969825' post='22238178']
Modifry is awesome, you might want to re-think the patch that you have in case it is the source of the short, Modifry has some amazing DCI's, I love mine.
Modifry is awesome, you might want to re-think the patch that you have in case it is the source of the short, Modifry has some amazing DCI's, I love mine.

Also, today my new transistors came. So I removed TR3(was not too difficult), and re-soldered the new one.
And bugger me, it now works again!
Think I'll leave the relay out for now until I can replace with a lower amperage, just in case. Although I guess its possible this new transistor will be more tolerant?!
For me, it's so satisfying being able to fix something I can't tell you. Thank you all, especially Modifry, as it's very unlikely I'd have got this done without your help. Bloody awesome!
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I'm glad that you got it working again, but there shall be no buggery here.
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