Kane,

Free word of advice.... If you piss people off with your arrogant attitude, they won't buy from you....No matter how good your product is.

That said, I'm interested in this as I was about to get a comptech reinforced housing. So I'll wait until you have more info on this.

Keep in mind one of the weak points of the S2000 drivetrain is the stock ring and pinion gear and the axles. No matter how strong the diff or LSD is, if you break a gear tooth or axle, it's time to call a tow truck.

 

Actually, since the second I posted it up, I said to myself "I seriously hope no one asks me what's included." Then it happened and I smacked my forehead.

I honestly dont like repeating myself. It's not arrogant, i'm sorry if you feel that way, but it's really more about having some sense. Just calm down for a second and think about it. I could imagine if someone asked that question about 20 posts down but not right after I posted it. When you click a topic, you read it correct? Then after reading you formulate either a response, question, or knowledge for yourself to take with you. What point would there be for forums if you didn't read it?

I'm really not trying to be a prick, but c'mon. Give me a break. At least read the title of the post and the first post. I'm gonna see a lot of crap from people about this thread but don't start it off like that.

 

Advice definately taken and noted. I just wish it wasn't the first post two replies that were like that. I think more of you would understand if you were in my shoes and read that. It's like a complete lack of respect for me taking my time to write this. Example:

You're in class presenting. Topic is about a philosopher. Right after you finish saying the philosophers name two times, people ask you what his/her name was repeatedly. Obviously you'd feel some frustration as it's like the kids are giving you a complete lack in respect and just trying to give you a hard time.


It's not the ring and pinion that are weak. It's the housing. The ring and pinion gears get pushed apart under heavy load till it reaches a point where the mating surfaces are so slim it can't handle the load in the small area and breaks off from the force. The axle shafts aren't weak, they're actually extremely beefy and strong. It's the flanges.

 

ya, i get that a lot from people. Pretty weird for those who've seen me.

 

So if one was to put this housing/diff combo on their car w/ stock gears, you're saying that they would be free of worry from a busted rear? Also, how does the Quaife style LSD compare to the Torsen style? Is there any improvement or difference?

 

As I recall Wesmaster broke his gear tooth even with a comptech reinforced rear end.

I know people who have gone through multiple axles. Failure happens within the CV joint. I would recommend upgraded axles if you plan to launch hard. Strong Diff housing and LSD only transfer the load to the axles and CV joints.

 

Will the package be offered with different FD Ratios are you going to stick with the stock 4.10 ratio?

I think most poeple that go FI would want to stay that route. I'd step up to the 4.57s if you stay NA.

Just a thought.

Which leads me to another question, will you be using the stock Honda gears or will Quaife be manufacturing them as well.

 

did anyone mention more detail on the housing
this thread is useless without more info on the housing

































J/K MATE
You have my full support for this kane
Keep up the good work buddy and let us know when this is ready.
How far away is the final product? Can I get in line for this?

I betta do some weekend overtime work.....it's looks like I will join the turbo side soon if this is successful hahaha

Kane, any chance of doing some more research regarding upgrading the pinion and gears to some thing more bullet proof? You can then market these stuffs separately eg diff housing, diff housing + diff, complete diff package etc

Oddy, the rest of the weaknesses in the drive train are easier to replace. It's upgrading/replacing the second gear (in the gear box) that will be the most expensive. Hey it's only part of the game...don't take this as a complain

 

Negative. Just like how ricks wont warrenty the gears because of faulty install or failure due to other bad components, same applies here. If you use get these improperly or exceed the maximum force the gears themselves can hold, those components will break and cause differential failure. In that situation, your gears caused the problem. If the axles snap, that's breakage outside of the housing and lsd. There are too many factors. What will be guaranteed is that the housing and differential will hold upto what you need. The stock gears will be used during the testing phase and we will see the limits of the unit as a whole -- which I will post.

The LSD on this is variable. It can go from pretty much a open wheel diff bias to 50-50 bias. Once the diff starts to have one wheel going faster than the other, it starts displacing more power to the wheel with grip. It is not a 24/7 LSD effect from what I've gathered. Only when there needs to be a power transfer. The torsen is a torque multiplier. I'll find out tomorrow if there is torque biasing even if one wheel is off the ground. Which would be a huge benefit over stock. From a small assumption, I think it still biases power if one wheel is off the ground. More info can be found here:
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/differentials/diffs.htm

The comptech reinforced rear end breaks gears on N/A s2000's power outputs. I've got down what needs to be replaced and what doesn't. Either I or someone else will continue the upgrade options available for the S2000's drivetrain.

You will use whatever gears you have in there. It will fit in the stock mounting points, use stock axles, driveshaft, ring and pinion gears. This is only the housing and differential. If you have the 4.57's in your stock diff, just take them off and have them professionally installed into the new unit.

Quaife will not be manufacturing gears.

[QUOTE]How far away is the final product? Can I get in line for this?

I betta do some weekend overtime work.....it's looks like I will join the turbo side soon if this is successful

 

how much it cost?