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Old 02-13-2006, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by yyyiiikes,Feb 12 2006, 09:51 PM
I found the next circus act to be an over torqued drain plug.
This is why I perform all routine maintanance myself. I don't know if you are aware of this but the oil filters on these cars can vibrate loose and spew oil everywhere if your not careful. I recommend you make sure the filter is very tight.

I had a filter back off a little bit the first time I changed my oil. I haven't had one back off since. Also, make sure you check the oil level at least every other fillup. The owners manual says you should check it every fillup.

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I used MityVac Fluid Evacuator to suck old oil out of the crankcase, I did not need to remove the oil drain plug. The oil filter can be removed and installed from the top without problem. I could do oil change without getting under the car. This MityVac Fluid Evacuator is used to do oil change for several cars, so that it is very cost effective.
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When loosening the drain bolt, it is better to use a sudden snap of force rather than gentle and slow preasure. Gentle and slow can cause damage a lot easier.
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[QUOTE=S2kracka,Feb 13 2006, 01:45 PM] When loosening the drain bolt, it is better to use a sudden snap of force rather than gentle and slow preasure.
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Originally Posted by yyyiiikes,Feb 12 2006, 11:51 PM
The Ford clown that changed the oil last time really torqued on the filter. Before draining the oil (but after jacking up the car), I tried to turn the filter but could not so I resort to buying a filter wrench. After solving that problem, then I found the next circus act to be an over torqued drain plug. I struggled to turn it as gently and slowly as possible, but that was not how it was meant to be.
The S2000 has very high oil pressure and a tendency to vibrate filters off so it takes more torque than some. The recommended tightening is 7/8 turn after filter contact (or 16 lb/ft) which many cannot apply by hand.

While the filter requires a lot of torque there are very few reports of a drain plug backing off, but some damage from over tightening. The spec on it is 29 lb/ft but frankly I never put that much on it.
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Originally Posted by yyyiiikes,Feb 12 2006, 11:51 PM
The Ford clown that changed the oil last time really torqued on the filter. Before draining the oil (but after jacking up the car), I tried to turn the filter but could not so I resort to buying a filter wrench. After solving that problem, then I found the next circus act to be an over torqued drain plug. I struggled to turn it as gently and slowly as possible, but that was not how it was meant to be.

I carefully applied more force thinking I would feel it slowly begin to turn... but it broke free in a sudden snap which resulted in my fist and wrench striking me in the face.
Lastly, I discovered that there was not a chrushable washer on the drain bolt...
Firstly, as much as would like to refer to the Ford mechanic as a
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[QUOTE=xviper,Feb 13 2006, 08:01 PM]Firstly, as much as would like to refer to the Ford mechanic as a
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Originally Posted by xviper,Feb 13 2006, 10:01 PM
If you can remove the oil filter by hand, then it was not installed properly or you are built like a gorilla.





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Thanks for setting my expectations properly. This is different than other cars I have worked on where I was warned of the damage caused by over tightening. I would like to offer an apology to any Ford mechanics, clowns, or primates that may have been offended by my rash comments.

With respect to the oem filter I will give it a little more twist with the wrench. When installing, the OEM filter did have a softer feel after contact... meaning it seemed easier to twist than other cars/filters. Is it possible to measure torque on a filter???

But believe me, that Motorcraft filter was on there really, really, really tight.

I checked every where for the washer... especially looking and feeling to see if it was stuck on the drain pan. But I will take the Fumoto off next oil change and check again.
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Is it possible to measure torque on a filter???
Yes, you need a torque wrench and the end cap/socket type oil filter wrench. Just take an OEM PCX filter to a Pep boys or probably any auto store to find the correct size. $6 or $8.
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