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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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[QUOTE=S1997,Apr 17 2007, 08:51 PM] But the Second Ammendment issue was bound to raise its head here. Some folks are always on the lookout for a cause c
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dean,Apr 17 2007, 07:34 PM
I like that approach. Although, I'm thinking that a couple of dead Bible thumpers nailed to the front door might be more effective in my neighborhood.
Ok, I've made a note. I'll leave my Gideon's Bible in the motel drawer when I visit Dean and Martha!
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 17 2007, 08:02 PM
How much clearer does it have to be? When you walk in and kill 30+ people at random, I think it is not jumping the gun to label you "deranged".
Apparently to you it is clear.

But obviously it's not to me.

Maybe he was just

Madder than Hell and ain't gonna take it anymore!

You disagree, so you feel free to call him deranged.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by S1997,Apr 17 2007, 07:10 PM
Maybe he was just
Madder than Hell and ain't gonna take it anymore!
And you think Howard Beale wasn't deranged?
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ralper,Apr 17 2007, 08:05 PM
Jim,

I'd like to believe that could've made a difference, but I doubt it. There was a video on msn.com before of one of his teachers, I'm sorry I don't remember her name, but she had Cho as a student in Creative Writing and Poetry. She and another professor saw such darkness in his writing that they recommended that he go for counseling. I don't believe he went. And of course the answer that they got was that he couldn't be forced to go if he didn't want to go. She even took him out of the class and taught him one to one. Still, it didn't seem to help.

My fear is that those people who don't need the class, who are emotionally stable and recognize the dangers and responsiblitiy of carrying a weapon will attend the class and pay the proper attention to what is being taught, but the others, the Cho's of the world will attend the class in body only.

I wish there was an easy way, but there simply isn't.
You may be right, Rob. It's all pretty hypothetical right now. I hadn't heard some of that commentary about him, but I think it is premature just to write him off as deranged.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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OK, so was Timothy McVeigh deranged? How about a Taliban suicide bomber? Was Hitler deranged? Was Truman, for ordering the atomic bomb attacks? Where is the line drawn?

People tend to do these things for a reason, not out of sheer random action. However, each of us is free to judge whether that reason was actually rational or whether the reason was irrational enough for us to consider the person "deranged".

Me, I'm voting for the latter in this case.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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[QUOTE=Chris Stack,Apr 17 2007, 10:47 AM]The drug comparison is not a fair one.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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My gun stays in my house (except for an occassional trip to the range): if I shoot you with my gun in my house, you deserve it! Because if I invite you in, I won't shoot you! I promise!
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Regardless of where you stand on the issues take a look at this video and be inspired.


http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=9A12AA0C...eo_m_vatech&fg=
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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