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Old 10-06-2005, 06:45 PM
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Wish that she had some time as a sitting judge. At least than you would have some history. The thing is, you know nothing until they begin to chime in on rulings. Over time they may begin to come into their own. It's all a big crap shoot. You hope for the best, sit back and see what happens. These people will have more of an impact on our futures than just about anyone else.
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Originally Posted by cordycord,Oct 5 2005, 09:33 AM
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1) Applying the constitution means that you don't look to foreign laws for "inspiration". It's not a "vote my way" buzzword. Liberals want to build from the constitution while conservatives want to follow the constitution.

2) Agree.

3) The candidate says nothing, and the senators blather.

4) Everyone deserves a vote, UNLESS to do so would be an embarrassment of the process (i.e. the person is CLEARLY not qualified, or has a checkered past). Further, it is the responsibility of the senators to actually vote, not rubber-stamp or follow the party. I know, ain't gonna happen.

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The top 1% of the "capitalist class" pays over 34% of the taxes. That's NOT FAIR---they should pay MORE!
The top 1% of the "capitalist-class" pays over 34% of the taxes...
Or "The 'top' one percent of the US population - the capitalist-class pays more than 34% of taxes."

But to understand the Marxian position that the working class produces all economic wealth is to also understand that, whether the capitalist-class collectively pays 1% of all taxes, or whether it pays 99% of all taxes it simply does not matter due the fact that all social wealth held by the capitalist class has been stolen from the working class by way of the legalized form of thievery known as "surplus value."


Old 10-06-2005, 08:23 PM
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But to understand the Marxian position that the working class produces all economic wealth is to also understand that, whether the capitalist-class collectively pays 1% of all taxes, or whether it pays 99% of all taxes it simply does not matter due the fact that all social wealth held by the capitalist class has been stolen from the working class by way of the legalized form of thievery known as "surplus value."
Do you really believe that drivel, or do you pine for the days of Stalin?
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Originally Posted by cordycord,Oct 6 2005, 08:23 PM
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Do you really believe that drivel, or do you pine for the days of Stalin?
To actually study that which most have been conditioned to believe they "understand" (Marxian social science) is to understand that revolutionary socialism has yet to exist in any form, at anytime anywhere on earth, including the state capitalism or bureaucratic state despotism that was the Soviet Union.
And no of course I do not believe that "drivel," cordycord. For Bill Gates, as but one example, personally manufactures every piece of software that Microsoft produces. He personally packages and ships every piece of software that Microsoft produces. He personally answers each and every phone call fielded at all Microsoft offices. Etc., etc., etc. Yeah, cordycord, never has Bill Gates exploited a single penny's worth of another human being's labor power and or intellectual power, let alone some $55 billion worth.


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Old 10-08-2005, 10:01 AM
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I rarely ever visit the Vintage Forum, but this thread sparked my interest. I may get flamed for saying this, but here it goes:

Regardless of her political inclination and experience (or lack thereof), something that I find pretty intesteresting is that the woman is in her 60's and she's never been married and never had any kids. Now, this may not be relevant on the majority of issues that the Supreme Court comes accross, but when it comes to social issues and family issues, what does a person who has never had her own family use as her values, and her heuristics in order to help understand the relevance of certain issues she may not be familiar with when interpreting the Constitution of the United States. I certainly hope it's not the Bible (For the record, I'm not an atheist. I may not be much of a practicing catholic, but I am religious, and believe. I jsut don't take the Bible verbatum). Am I way off base here? Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Rodan,Oct 8 2005, 11:01 AM
Now, this may not be relevant on the majority of issues that the Supreme Court comes accross, but when it comes to social issues and family issues, what does a person who has never had her own family use as her values, and her heuristics in order to help understand the relevance of certain issues she may not be familiar with when interpreting the Constitution of the United States.
So that's why I don't have any values! Thanks for explaining it to me.
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To actually study that which most have been conditioned to believe they "understand" (Marxian social science) is to understand that revolutionary socialism has yet to exist in any form, at anytime anywhere on earth, including the state capitalism or bureaucratic state despotism that was the Soviet Union.
Ah yes, the Marxist "connaisseur". Only BITSA could state so eloquently that Bill Gates is an undeserving slacker.

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Regardless of her political inclination and experience (or lack thereof), something that I find pretty intesteresting is that the woman is in her 60's and she's never been married and never had any kids. Now, this may not be relevant on the majority of issues that the Supreme Court comes accross, but when it comes to social issues and family issues, what does a person who has never had her own family use as her values, and her heuristics in order to help understand the relevance of certain issues she may not be familiar with when interpreting the Constitution of the United States.
Have to agree with Mike on this one. Do similar thoughts sprout up when you think of Condi Rice?
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Originally Posted by Morris,Oct 6 2005, 01:47 AM
What worries me is that I heard she stated that George Bush is the smartest person she ever met. Now that's scary!
Which would be the most frightening explanation for her comment?

1) She's willing to tell one hell of a whopper to get in good with the boss.
2) She equates "I like his politics" with "He's smart".
3) She must hang out in bars where Avg. IQ = (no. of teeth + no. of tattoos) / 2.
4) GB is a stealth genius.

Could he be the absent minded professor of 21st century politics?
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Originally Posted by BITSA,Oct 5 2005, 10:31 AM
Yes of course Harriet Miers is qualified - to assist in the continuing and in fact now greatly accelerated transfer of massive amounts of economic wealth (from the class whose labor power and intellectual power produces all economic wealth - the working class - to the class that produces nothing - the capitalist class), by any means necessary, ie., union busting.
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