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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Sep 14 2005, 09:21 AM
Well, if the 505hp Z06 can get nearly 25mpg on the highway, I would imagine that Honda could pull 25mpg out of their hat in a DOHC OR TOHC(Triple overhead cam! j/k) V6 or V8.
If the S2000 loafed around at ~1500RPM @ 80MPH, it would get better mileage, too. It doesn't mean I'd want to drive it.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanDL,Sep 14 2005, 08:27 AM
If the S2000 loafed around at ~1500RPM @ 80MPH, it would get better mileage, too. It doesn't mean I'd want to drive it.

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Well, the unfortunate thing is that the S2000 wouldn't be able to maintain 80mph at 1500rpm as it wouldn't make enough power. Quite unlike a larger displacement V8 that makes power all over the rev band.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by marcucci,Sep 13 2005, 07:50 PM
I just wish they would make a DOHC VTEC head that would fit on ANY of the non-NSX V6's. That would make some cheap, plentiful engines awful nice...
True, a while back people were making close to 300 whp with boltons using the MDX 3.5L block and the CL type S heads. It's not DOHC but should still go low to mid 13's in a 6spd CL type S.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Sep 14 2005, 01:27 PM
Well, the unfortunate thing is that the S2000 wouldn't be able to maintain 80mph at 1500rpm as it wouldn't make enough power. Quite unlike a larger displacement V8 that makes power all over the rev band.
One of the reasons a C5 or C6 can loaf along at such a low cruising rpm is due to displacement. Build a 4.4L V8 out of two S2k engines, and it stands to reason that it will also produce significantly more torque than an S2000, and could therefore have a more fuel-efficient overdrive gear for freeway cruising without sacrificing passing torque.

BTW Todd, you wouldn't be the first to mate a couple of high revving inline fours into a single V8 - Radical Sports cars has created a 2.6L V8 using two Suzuki Hayabusa engines... 363bhp at 10,300rpm, with 196 ft lbs of torque at 7,000rpm.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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I'd be satisfied with al little extra torque from n lightweight IMA, and maybe a lean burn on/off switch for 6th gear. Should satisfy the low -end power complaints, and my complaint about 25mpg from a 4cyl (although the prelude got similar gas numbers)
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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ON the topic.... when did Honda do away with tming belts? I was reading about the TSX (K24A) and was surprised to see it had a timing chain instead of belt... I know I have been in Suby land too long, but are all of the newer Honda engines like this?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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When they switched to mostly i-vtec engines. I don't know specifically if it has to do with the variable cam timing or anything, but whenever you see i-vtec...it's a chain drive! The S2000 is chain driven too no?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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i-VTEC doesn't really make a chain more difficult. Keep in mind that chains were around long before belts were.

The K17's (current Civic) are belt-driven. The K24 (CR-V, TSX) are chain-driven. I thought the K20's (RSX) were belt, but Ryan can probably speak to that...

Casey, the F20C (S2k) was the first chain-driven Honda that I can remember.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by marcucci,Sep 15 2005, 08:29 AM
I thought the K20's (RSX) were belt, but Ryan can probably speak to that...
Yes, the K20s in the RSX (base, Type-S, EP3 Si, '06 Si) are chain driven.

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