Installing Ricks aeroscreen
Received my full height aeroscreen from Rick a few days ago (looks great and just over 2 weeks delivery time.........thanks Rick!). Am hopefully going to install this weekend. Had a quick question about the type of glue that should be used to stick the two halves of the plastic mechanism that hold the screen together. Rick's instructions refer to Super Glue (Bob Smith IC-2000) but have not heard of this in the UK. To me, Super Glue sounds like the clear glue that will permanently stick just about anything together!. However, in Rick's instructions he describes the glue as "rubberised black super glue" which sounds different.
Any advice on type of glue from anyone who has installed aeroscreens?. Using super glue (my definition) sounds a bit worrying given that it dries hard (no flexibility) and is also pretty permanent.........am assuming that I should be able to remove the aeroscreen again in the future which may not be possible if using this type of glue.
Appreciate any words of wisdom that folks may have on this!.
Any advice on type of glue from anyone who has installed aeroscreens?. Using super glue (my definition) sounds a bit worrying given that it dries hard (no flexibility) and is also pretty permanent.........am assuming that I should be able to remove the aeroscreen again in the future which may not be possible if using this type of glue.
Appreciate any words of wisdom that folks may have on this!.
sounds like to me that he is referring to maybe a black mastic (which wouuld be flexible but never properly dry)- or a black silicon sealant (flexible and dry) - like bathroom sealant.
Can't see the point myself as the full height looks daft IMHO
Can't see the point myself as the full height looks daft IMHO
Err on the side of caution and don't do anything until you're sure on what sort of glue to use. Superglue will definitely be permanent and in my experience, it's also very possible if your not really careful to make a messy job of it, and any excess glue on the clear part of the screen will dry solid and you'll never remove it. even if you remove it at once it still leaves a mark.
I reckon silicon sealant should be ok as long as you can clamp the surfaces together as it takes a fair while to go off.
I reckon silicon sealant should be ok as long as you can clamp the surfaces together as it takes a fair while to go off.
Just found a web page about this glue. It appears to be similar to superglue but a rubberised version. Strange
This is what it says:-
Most of you out there use Bob Smith Industries cyanoacrylate glue, but you probably don't realize it. It is usually labeled by whatever store you buy it from. BSI has come out with a new "Rubber Toughened" IC-2000 cyanoacrylate glue. It has the qualities of both a cyanoacrylate glue and epoxy glue. Cyanoacrylate glue dries very strong, yet its very brittle and can snap under pressure. Epoxy glue is stronger, has some yield to it so it bends under pressure instead of snapping, but its not as easy to use and takes longer to dry. BSI combined both those positive effects into one great glue. The strength of an epoxy and the easy of use of a cyanoacrylate glue. Along with being extra strength, its also extra thick. I wouldn't use this when gluing two flat surfaces together, regular cyanoacrylate glue works better in that case, but for almost any other gluing project though, I now use IC-2000.
One the features I really like about this glue is that is doesn't clog up the tip of the bottle. I have yet to have to unplug the tip or have to scrap away any dry glue to get the cap back on the bottle. This is defiantly something everyone should try.
I'll try to find out a bit more about it.
My uncle lives in the states and works in the automotive industry, so he may know what it is.
Or maybe you should go back to Rick and ask for alternatives!!!
Matt
This is what it says:-
Most of you out there use Bob Smith Industries cyanoacrylate glue, but you probably don't realize it. It is usually labeled by whatever store you buy it from. BSI has come out with a new "Rubber Toughened" IC-2000 cyanoacrylate glue. It has the qualities of both a cyanoacrylate glue and epoxy glue. Cyanoacrylate glue dries very strong, yet its very brittle and can snap under pressure. Epoxy glue is stronger, has some yield to it so it bends under pressure instead of snapping, but its not as easy to use and takes longer to dry. BSI combined both those positive effects into one great glue. The strength of an epoxy and the easy of use of a cyanoacrylate glue. Along with being extra strength, its also extra thick. I wouldn't use this when gluing two flat surfaces together, regular cyanoacrylate glue works better in that case, but for almost any other gluing project though, I now use IC-2000.
One the features I really like about this glue is that is doesn't clog up the tip of the bottle. I have yet to have to unplug the tip or have to scrap away any dry glue to get the cap back on the bottle. This is defiantly something everyone should try.
I'll try to find out a bit more about it.
My uncle lives in the states and works in the automotive industry, so he may know what it is.
Or maybe you should go back to Rick and ask for alternatives!!!
Matt
I found this website but I'm not too sure whether you can get it in this country. It is definitely a Hobby Glue so maybe you could try a few hobby shops for it.
http://www.bsiadhesives.com/Pages/hobby/ca.html
Matt
http://www.bsiadhesives.com/Pages/hobby/ca.html
Matt
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Thanks for all the comments/suggestions folks!.
Actually got a PM from Rick so thought I'd post it to close the loop and also share the info in case anyone else ever asks the question. See below:
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Neil,
The silicone based sealants do not work. Do not use them! Super glue and
construction-grade adhesive is what to use. The super glue (the clear
variety works fine) should be use on the full length of the ears on both
sides of the mechanism. The integrity of joint here is vital to the
longevity of the installation and vibration-free operation.
The construction grade adhesive should be used around the base and in the
stock slots (once all the clear stuff that Honda uses has been removed).
I've used these adhesives on my screen and it's been working beautifully for
over a year now.
Rick
Actually got a PM from Rick so thought I'd post it to close the loop and also share the info in case anyone else ever asks the question. See below:
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Neil,
The silicone based sealants do not work. Do not use them! Super glue and
construction-grade adhesive is what to use. The super glue (the clear
variety works fine) should be use on the full length of the ears on both
sides of the mechanism. The integrity of joint here is vital to the
longevity of the installation and vibration-free operation.
The construction grade adhesive should be used around the base and in the
stock slots (once all the clear stuff that Honda uses has been removed).
I've used these adhesives on my screen and it's been working beautifully for
over a year now.
Rick
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