Is this really bad?!
I'll check my tires in a bit, forgot this morning!
Just to confirm I'm not some idiot who don't know how to drive + I just traded from a WRX to get a 'real' drivers car! I've had around 20 decent performers so far and I've taken track courses including Mansell's at Brands Hatch where I came top and earned a place on an advanced 3 day team BAR training course. Please understand that I know the car quite well for the time I've had it and I myself have pushed it into slides when I wanted to, sitting just under V-Tec on a bend the other night and I hammered it just at apex to get the back out, when I choose to do this at around 40-50MPH it makes me smile as I caused the slide and I control it, when you poot poot round a roundabout and lose all grip at 20 in traffic you gotta be concerned, when you get even more slide in the rain under the same conditions you start to think, thats what lead me to post here. Just to confirm I played with the car a little last night and it all seems to be down to the near side rear tire, I can even get slide at under 10MPH when I pull out of a junction turning right without hard acceleration.
I'll check my tires at lunch and post what I got.
Just to confirm I'm not some idiot who don't know how to drive + I just traded from a WRX to get a 'real' drivers car! I've had around 20 decent performers so far and I've taken track courses including Mansell's at Brands Hatch where I came top and earned a place on an advanced 3 day team BAR training course. Please understand that I know the car quite well for the time I've had it and I myself have pushed it into slides when I wanted to, sitting just under V-Tec on a bend the other night and I hammered it just at apex to get the back out, when I choose to do this at around 40-50MPH it makes me smile as I caused the slide and I control it, when you poot poot round a roundabout and lose all grip at 20 in traffic you gotta be concerned, when you get even more slide in the rain under the same conditions you start to think, thats what lead me to post here. Just to confirm I played with the car a little last night and it all seems to be down to the near side rear tire, I can even get slide at under 10MPH when I pull out of a junction turning right without hard acceleration.
I'll check my tires at lunch and post what I got.
I agree with Chesh. Either your car or your driving is fcuked, sounds like your car but it could be you? 
I find in my S with stock tyres you can go briskly in the wet, I just need to be smooth and I'm no great driver either.
Any high bhp RWD car will be tail happy with provocation in the wet the S is no different other than there is no traction control - that's what makes it so fun.

I find in my S with stock tyres you can go briskly in the wet, I just need to be smooth and I'm no great driver either.
Any high bhp RWD car will be tail happy with provocation in the wet the S is no different other than there is no traction control - that's what makes it so fun.
I agree with Chesh. Either your car or your driving is fcuked, sounds like your car but it could be you?
I find in my S with stock tyres you can go briskly in the wet, I just need to be smooth and I'm no great driver either.
Any high bhp RWD car will be tail happy with provocation in the wet the S is no different other than there is no traction control - that's what makes it so fun.
Did you read my last post?
I find in my S with stock tyres you can go briskly in the wet, I just need to be smooth and I'm no great driver either.
Any high bhp RWD car will be tail happy with provocation in the wet the S is no different other than there is no traction control - that's what makes it so fun.
Did you read my last post?
I think this loosing car at 20 is down to alignment, Ive had an 00 with the old alignment and it was horrible, changed to revised spec it was great, had wrong rears on, it was horrible, had a buff alignment on worn tyres, that was just bloody dangerous, then brought an 03 put revised alignment on from new and it was great, had the revised alignment put on at tyre change and it still handles great although the rear shocks are being changed due to high speed handling and crashy characteristics, but it seems to handle brilliantly in the wet and I can give it throttle comming off a roundabout and I still dont loose the back end. There seems to be so many different handling s's about. Anyway Im off this afternoon to test drive an 04 and see how it compares.
Originally posted by cheshire_carper
I`m gonna be frank here. All this loosing the backend at 20mph crap is bollox. How can you say `I was doing 20 mph and I lost the backend`?
What you need to say is, I was doing 5 MPH and then I accelerated like a demon fecker upto 20mph in 1 milisecond. Now you could say you lost the backend.
I guarantee doing 20 mph and accel-ing gradually will NOT loose the backend. Its not the speed, its the rate you attain that speed. The speed is totally irrel.
(Anyhow, its sad to see you`re not getting another S, I think you should coz they`re fab!).
I`m gonna be frank here. All this loosing the backend at 20mph crap is bollox. How can you say `I was doing 20 mph and I lost the backend`?
What you need to say is, I was doing 5 MPH and then I accelerated like a demon fecker upto 20mph in 1 milisecond. Now you could say you lost the backend.
I guarantee doing 20 mph and accel-ing gradually will NOT loose the backend. Its not the speed, its the rate you attain that speed. The speed is totally irrel.
(Anyhow, its sad to see you`re not getting another S, I think you should coz they`re fab!).
Seems that there are so many variables in whether you stick or don't stick to the tarmac at any one point in time that any perceived handling problems are really only a worry if they happen consistently - if I was continually losing it meandering around roundabouts then I would be worried - if it only happened once or twice, I would put it down to experience and use it as an example when you brag to your mates that your car is a real "handful"
Originally posted by cheshire_carper
I`m gonna be frank here. All this loosing the backend at 20mph crap is bollox. How can you say `I was doing 20 mph and I lost the backend`?
What you need to say is, I was doing 5 MPH and then I accelerated like a demon fecker upto 20mph in 1 milisecond. Now you could say you lost the backend.
I`m gonna be frank here. All this loosing the backend at 20mph crap is bollox. How can you say `I was doing 20 mph and I lost the backend`?
What you need to say is, I was doing 5 MPH and then I accelerated like a demon fecker upto 20mph in 1 milisecond. Now you could say you lost the backend.
In hindsight I should have just rolled i.e. no application of the gas pedal but I was doing a constant speed as the car in front was that far in front.
Occasionally it does just happen.


